Posted on 05/02/2023 8:40:21 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
That’s moronic compared to being at peace with Russia, particularly when we have a diaper soiling, dementia ridden imbecile as CinC and a Pentagon full of woke generals. They have no eff’n clue as how to win a war. But they are excellent at spending trillions on the military industrial complex and needlessly having our young soldiers and marines killed and wounded.
It makes zero sense to taking down a country a peg or two by provoking them into nuclear war. It makes zero sense to waste American dollars that we don’t have in bad economic times on a corrupt country. It makes zero sense to weaken our military by sending our weapons and ammo to an untrained conscripts to be wasted in defeat. It makes zero sense to drive Russia and our greatest adversary, China into an alliance. It makes zero sense to divide our military power in Europe, Syria, Africa and a dozen other places and not focus on China’s desire to take Taiwan. The U.S. definitely has national interests in Taiwan, unlike Ukraine. (It’s not like I want to defend Taiwan, but we are completely reliant on their chips and tech. Chips and tech need to be onshored to the U.S.)
Obviously, you are a never Trumper and not onboard with Trump’s foreign policy which is was best that America has had in decades.
What poverty? They are getting billions in humanitarian aid to prevent that outcome. Zelinsky Blinken Yellen and Big Guy are set now so there should be enough money left over for the rest of the people. They also have lots of jobs working as soldiers using all the nice weapons we have been sending. They are supposed to be getting aid from the EU as well.
All of those are meaningless to the U.S. We certainly do not need Ukraine’s energy when we should be energy dominant on our own. As for geography, that’s completely Europe’s problem, and most of Europe doesn’t give two chits about Ukraine. We have our own geography problems, just look south. It’s not just our southern border, it includes China’s influence in South America. We cannot be dividing our military power and resources in dozens of places in the world with China on Taiwan’s doorstep. Unfortunately we have real national interests in Taiwan, and no one seems to be seriously interested in eliminating our dependence on both China and Taiwan.
“Ukraine has been Russian-influenced basically FOREVER.”
not even close to true.
Ukraine is far older than Muskovy
LOL - you want to argue that Russia has not been involved in Ukraine / and having influence with/towards culture, religion, politics, history, language, etc... for, I don’t know - the last 500 years?
Go for it! That should be amusing
Oil and natural gas are meaningless to the U.S.?
Biden’s war is killing proud Ukrainians, shameful.
Kyiv influenced Muscovy first and far longer than that.
How Moscow has long used the historic Kyivan Rus state to justify expansionism
You really believe that Russia has been at peace with the U.S.?
How a 4-Hour Battle Between Russian Mercenaries and U.S. Commandos Unfolded in Syria
The thing about natural gas it isn’t as much of a global commodity as oil. Without a pipeline, natural gas becomes expensive to ship because it needs to be super cooled (-162 C) to become LNG. We already have thousands and thousands of miles of pipelines in America to use our own natural gas. In other words, we don’t need an eff’n thing from a corrupt Ukraine.
You Biden ass lickers are amazingly ignorant and stupid.
So you've never heard of the global energy market and how it's all integrated into the worldwide economy?
By supplying Russias enemies we did nothing different than what they did to us. No nuke war resulted and none will as it would be suicide.
He ran and one on a pro-West platform and renegged due to Russia meddling.
Russia fomented the Maidan by meddling. Of course the US was meddling too. Except we didnt invade in a hissy fit.
Here ya go. Start with lesson 1
there are at least 21 sessions:
“The Making of Modern Ukraine”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJczLlwp-d8&list=PLh9mgdi4rNewfxO7LhBoz_1Mx1MaO6sw_
Here’s a wikipedia history:
This is just the beginning:
” Prehistoric Ukraine, as a part of the Pontic steppe in Eastern Europe, played an important role in Eurasian cultural events, including the spread of the Chalcolithic and Bronze Ages, Indo-European migrations, and the domestication of the horse.[1][2][3]
Ukraine, a part of Scythia in antiquity, and settled by the Greuthungi and Getae in the migration period, was also a site of early Slavic expansion and entered written history with the establishment of the medieval state of Kievan Rus’, which emerged as a powerful nation in the Middle Ages but disintegrated by the mid-12th century.
During the 14th and 15th centuries, present-day Ukrainian territories came under the rule of four external powers: the Golden Horde, the Crimean Khanate, the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and the Crown of the Kingdom of Poland. The latter two would then merge into the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth following the Union of Krewo and Union of Lublin. Meanwhile, the Ottoman Empire emerged as a major regional power in and around the Black Sea, through protectorates like the Crimean Khanate, as well as directly-administered territory...”
Have I been talking to Hunter Biden all along? You are irrational. You don’t read or understand my posts. What is your eff’n fascination with two of the most corrupt nations in the world fighting each other. You are 100% lock step with Biden’s foreign policy. Biden has never been correct in a damn thing he has done. You are siding with corrupt imbeciles. Think a moment. What does that make you?
These arguments can be compared to someone saying: “Texas was part of Spanish Mexico in the 1600s. Therefore, China is justified in supporting the Reconquista.”
Except even less supported in the case of Ukraine.
no way you have listened to the lectures
clearly you are NOT interested in the facts but in your wishes of what is fact
No, your posts are just ignorant about how the integrated global energy market works, and what would happen if Putin took control of a large part of it in Europe.
Russia is using its gas and energy resources to 'blackmail' Europe, says Germany's economy minister
Energy, oil, and gas vital interests?
Hmmm. Your neocon calling card is showing.
Sounds like reasons the U.S. sought to bring “freedom” and “democracy” to many nations in the Middle East.
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