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1 posted on 03/24/2023 7:24:10 PM PDT by Moe-Patrick
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Since the Leftist/Scumocrat/RINO/WEF/Globalist's vote fraud machine has not been dismantled, and it is highly unlikely it will be in time for 2024 (if ever) I will vote for Trump simply to protest the aforementioned filthbags' vile attempts to destroy him - and us. If Trump does not run, or cannot run, I will not vote.

I suspect there are many others who will do the same.

54 posted on 03/25/2023 2:00:07 AM PDT by Rocco DiPippo
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Well with the poll like that trump should quit immediately and kiss the desantis ring /s


70 posted on 03/25/2023 5:59:07 AM PDT by rottweiller_inc (inter canem et lupum)
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Unless 2020 gets fixed Jesus Christ couldn’t get elected on the Republican ticket in 2024. Trump knows this. I believe he has a plan to fix it.


72 posted on 03/25/2023 7:37:52 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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Count me in that group

Trump or NO VOTE


76 posted on 03/25/2023 10:07:44 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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Regardless, it’s a fact and the GOP cannot win without them

So what?

Their guy has a hard EV ceiling and it's <270.

It doesn't matter what they say or do.

80 posted on 03/25/2023 10:45:53 AM PDT by Jim Noble (You have sat too long for any good you have been doing)
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GOP first needs its votes to be counted and only real Dem votes to be counted. Absent either the 'election' becomes a stolen 'selection,' with the selectors currently being mostly Dems. If we can somehow achieve an honest enough process, voting matters. Pro- and anti-Trump folks agree on little but do agree that he's polarizing, that there are subsets of voters, in both GOP primary and general election races who will only for him or always vote against him. Pro- and anti-Trump folks disagree on the sizes of those respective groups, but both claim the size of their subset may be decisive.

Rush often said that no third party, but only Trump, could break the bond between Trump and his voters. I don't think he'd so that willfully, but he needs to be wary of being tempted or tricked into responding too quickly to his opponents in ways he'd later regret. I think both Rush and Trump would accept one codicil, that G*d could also affect it. Although he seems to be in unusually vigorous health for his age, given the example of Biden, the possibility of age, illness or even sudden death occurring, via not just conspiratorial, but natural and godly, means, needs to be considered. Trump needs say he feels great, his doctors say his health is great. But be clear he wouldn't hide any significant changes from us and would step aside to support America's then next best choice if needed. And ideally set out some methodology to reassure us of that, which the left could neither hijack against him, nor use to claim Biden's fitness.

For never Trumpers who'd otherwise vote against Biden and for some alleged kind of GOP candidate I'd point out that about the only anti-Trump tactic which hasn't been tried and failed (miserably from their viewpoint) is the Twenty-Second's. Elect him to another term and he's guaranteed gone in four years. They've already survived four years of him once. If the country can survive four years of Biden, they can probably survive another four of Trump and then celebrate his end. Post-Trump there would be at least a chance for pre-Trump type Republicans to return. Re-elect Biden and you ensure an endless line of nameless, globalist puppet masters directing meaningless interchangeable Residents. For any honest self-styling 'Conservative' Never Trumpers, voting Trump is arguably the least bad option by both of their criteria!

For President Trump I'd offer one more bit of advice. And certainly would want him to refine it through his own judgement and not take it blindly. Sir, if things go as you plan and hope much will change. Since that implies you wn the election most will likely agree your changes were improvements. But come Jan 20, 2028 only one thing is certain. Some one else's hand will take over being in charge. Whom, I and maybe even you, cannot predict. I suspect your personal history leaves you with less than perfect confidence in even your own VP picks as future custodians of your legacy. Your own children may be wonderful, capable and have done well with your business legacy, but your political instincts must tell you that anointing one of them risks seeming 'bush league' with your base. (Not doubting that if one of them rose on their own, as you did, that there would be another generation of a proud paternal Trump smile. But they, like you, should be allowed to earn it.) In addition to fixing all Biden broke and reMAGA you also need to create an environment in which someone worthy of building on your legacy arises to keep American great. While defeating any primary obstacles to your return leave the salvageable ones an avenue to learn and grow. Some may prove useful in your administration and some may learn enough from your administration to become good stewards for the future.

87 posted on 03/25/2023 1:24:49 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Biden/Harris events are called dodo ops)
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