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RUSSIA’S GRIP ON AVDEYEVKA TIGHTENS, AND 70% OF BAKHMUT IS UNDER WAGNER’S CONTROL
Donbass Insider ^ | 21/03/23 | Christelle Neante

Posted on 03/21/2023 2:39:50 PM PDT by delta7

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To: Forward the Light Brigade

“Korea is the best outcome”.

How is that working out?


21 posted on 03/21/2023 4:27:19 PM PDT by Does so (......."Who is Ray Epps?"........should be overstamped on every piece of currency)
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To: Salohcin
Peace would be established if Russia simply withdrew.

The dumbest line about the Special Military Operation in the Ukraine, quacked by a Re-Animator...

22 posted on 03/21/2023 4:27:52 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Salohcin

Peace would also be established upon Ukraine’s surrender.


23 posted on 03/21/2023 4:29:38 PM PDT by This_Dude
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To: DUMBGRUNT
why is it that no one migrates to Russia?

4.3 million people immigrated to Russia in 2021.

That's roughly the average number of immigrants per year for the last 10 years.

24 posted on 03/21/2023 4:51:26 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: mac_truck

Did you just make up that number? The official Russian statistics report only 6 million total foreign residents, which includes some 4 million migrant workers from Central Asia, and annual immigration of only 200,000, mostly from other former Soviet countries. Russia is not a top immigration destination.


25 posted on 03/21/2023 5:25:27 PM PDT by Salohcin
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To: All

Thanks to UMCRevMom for posting this.
We don’t know what the truth is out there. But we know that Biden and a lot of politicians have not been telling the truth, while they give away money by the pallet load.


26 posted on 03/21/2023 5:28:27 PM PDT by Honest Nigerian (.)
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To: jimwatx

“Obviously Russia considers this war as existential to their survival as a country...”

Oh, bull crap. Ukraine posed no existential threat to Russia whatsoever. However, Russia DOES pose an existential threat to Ukraine.

“...and there’s no question they will ultimately win this thing.”

Quite possibly. But, if they win the war, they will lose the peace.


27 posted on 03/21/2023 5:32:10 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: mac_truck

“4.3 million people immigrated to Russia in 2021.”

You’re a liar.

For your reading pleasure:

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/RUS/russia/net-migration#:~:text=Chart%20and%20table%20of%20the%20Russia%20net%20migration,per%201000%20population%2C%20a%2012.69%25%20decline%20from%202020.

Immigration is WITHIN the Russian Federation (i.e., between members of the Russian Federation), rather than immigration TO the Russian Federation.


28 posted on 03/21/2023 5:42:54 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: delta7

The international media cabal keeps telling me Putin’s army is just about finished. So I know Russia must be kicking ass


29 posted on 03/21/2023 5:43:13 PM PDT by confederatecarpetbag
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To: Salohcin

According to Statista, immigration to Russia has been over 4 million a year since 2012. Also, immigration has been greater than emmigration for a net gain of 2.25 million since 2012.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1009483/emigration-and-immigration-russia/


30 posted on 03/21/2023 5:48:32 PM PDT by yuleeyahoo (The nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master and deserves one. Hamilton)
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To: This_Dude

That would be a Carthaginian peace.


31 posted on 03/21/2023 6:02:32 PM PDT by Salohcin
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To: yuleeyahoo

You misread the table. Those numbers were for the aggregate number of immigrants living in Russia and emigrants living outside of Russia in a given year.

Here is Statistca’s data on annual immigration flows.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1010259/international-migration-russia-inflow-outflow/


32 posted on 03/21/2023 6:11:40 PM PDT by Salohcin
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To: mac_truck

—”4.3 million people immigrated to Russia in 2021.”

A quick look shows nothing of that magnitude???

Pls show your source.

And a breakdown of where they are coming from would be interesting.


33 posted on 03/21/2023 6:21:04 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: mac_truck
rus
34 posted on 03/21/2023 6:26:09 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Statistic: Total national and international migration in Russia from 1990 to 2021, by flow (in 1,000s) | Statista
Find more statistics at Statista
35 posted on 03/21/2023 8:56:08 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: ought-six
You’re a liar.

and your something I clean off my shoe with a sharp stick.

36 posted on 03/21/2023 8:59:23 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: This_Dude

You’re correct, Russia is not being devasted by the sanctions that have been placed on them.

The fallacy of the other side of this is pushing to stop this senseless war makes you pro-Putin which is absurd.

I could care less about Russia and Ukraine, it’s not strategically important to security interests of the USA.

If we are worried about Russia winning and then attacking the Baltic nations or Poland, they are NATO partners, we need to be building them up right now instead of spending massive amounts in Ukraine.


37 posted on 03/22/2023 3:49:03 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: mac_truck

From the source you cite:

“Leading countries of origin of immigrants in Russia 2022”

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1203451/immigration-by-country-in-russia/

All the immigration into Russia is similar to moving from Gary Indiana to the south side of Chicago.

NB: Look at a pre-1917 map and after WWII map, Stalin gerrymandered to divide and control the many ethnic groups, Stalin called it “National Territorial Delimitation “
Yes, much of the inflow is economic because Moscow has sucked the value out when possible, and much is returning to the family origin.


38 posted on 03/22/2023 8:23:59 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: delta7

They will never admit anything

They will declare Russia lost regardless what happens

Very few here admit when wrong


39 posted on 03/22/2023 8:25:42 AM PDT by wardaddy (Truth is treason in the Empire of lies)
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To: tennmountainman

Honestly at least she’s polite and resists personal smears

I don’t mind her

It’s her thing

I don’t agree but she’s been cordial

Most of the others are rabid


40 posted on 03/22/2023 8:27:26 AM PDT by wardaddy (Truth is treason in the Empire of lies)
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