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Paul Krugman Says Social Security Is Sustainable. It's Really Not.
Reason ^ | 2.23.2023 | Eric Boehm

Posted on 02/24/2023 2:36:49 PM PST by nickcarraway

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To: nickcarraway
When insolvency hits, there will be mandatory across-the-board benefit cuts—for Social Security, that's likely to translate into a roughly 20 percent reduction in promised benefits.

How does the 20% reduction in promised benefits fit into the analyses of whether to take the benefits as soon as possible (age 62) rather than wait until 65, etc? The reason most people (myself included) elect to take the money and run rather than wait is the uncertainty of what will be left when the time comes. Let’s face it folks you never know with government programs.

21 posted on 02/24/2023 3:25:01 PM PST by immadashell (Save Innocent Lives: Ban Gun Free Zones)
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To: Reily

There is a solution that would maintain Social Security and Medicare payments in perpetuity regardless of the number of entitled beneficiaries. Congress should change the trust fund law and completely eliminate it.

The trust fund was set up by FDR as a ploy to get Congress to approve SS. The whole board scheme envisioned that a group of smart people in 1935 could project what the beneficiary needs of the program would be 75 years into the future. This was a joke at the time and is even more of a joke now.

People can contribute whatever is required to FICA to reinforce their sense of entitlement and the starting age can be adjusted to reflect modern actuarial projections, but an entitlement is an entitlement. If the beneficiary expenditures exceed the FICA receipts, the promise must still be kept.

Fortunately, if the government is running out of money, it can legally print as much as it needs by adding to the reserves of the member banks who hold the Treasury department’s accounts. It’s not “borrowed” money because the government made it. They can make as much as they need to meet budget appropriations.

The bank in Monopoly can never go bankrupt or run out of money and neither can the Federal Reserve. That’s just how it works.


22 posted on 02/24/2023 3:29:21 PM PST by Dave Wright (i)
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To: nickcarraway

are they still milking it???


23 posted on 02/24/2023 3:33:15 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: nickcarraway

Krugman never gives up being so so wrong about pretty much everything.


24 posted on 02/24/2023 3:40:09 PM PST by Sam Gamgee
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To: nickcarraway

Let’s take the money we’re throwing down the Ukraine rat hole and use it to prop up Social Security. Or take all the money spent on queer studies and donate that to the Social Security fund... There really are solutions.


25 posted on 02/24/2023 3:46:32 PM PST by GOPJ ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muw22wTePqQ Gumballs: Immigrants by the numbers.)
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To: alloysteel
The supposed “Lockbox funding” has been raided time and time again, for short-time contingencies,

That started with LBJ and has contiued every since. It was during the Vietnam war and the slogan was "Guns and Butter." What that really meant we will fund the war by raiding the social security trust fund and hand out largess to the public at the same time. They stole the money. It should be noted both Democrats and Republicans were in this together!

26 posted on 02/24/2023 3:56:00 PM PST by cpdiii (cane cutter-deckhand-roughneck-oil field trash- drilling fluid tech-geologist-pilot- pharmacist)
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To: nickcarraway

“Paul Krugman Says Social Security Is Sustainable. It’s Really Not.”

Actually he’s right. The law requires SS to take a haircut if revenues don’t meet the promises to their welfare recipients. So if revenue comes up 25% short, and the (non-existent) ‘trust fund’ is depleted, then their welfare recipients get 25% less than promised. It’s a bummer, but that’s what happens when Congress refuses to pay for their spending, IN REAL TIME, but instead pushes it down the road.


27 posted on 02/24/2023 4:12:32 PM PST by BobL
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To: nickcarraway

I would think the first and most logical step would be to identify all the folks that are getting checks, that shouldn’t be getting checks, mostly in the form of SSI.

How many illegals, family members of illegals-Birthright citizens- refugees-etc are getting a check because they hired one of those disability lawyers, who convinced a liberal hack judge that they deserve a check?


28 posted on 02/24/2023 4:22:30 PM PST by qaz123
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To: nickcarraway

Paul Krugman, former Enron consultant, says Enron is is sustainable.


29 posted on 02/24/2023 4:31:16 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: nickcarraway

If Krugman told me the sun rises in the East I would have my doubts….


30 posted on 02/24/2023 6:03:50 PM PST by capydick (“the Bible are the answers Withinfor all the problems men face.the covers of )
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To: nickcarraway

That’s if we do nothing. The cap raised to 250K adds another 20 years to the program. And who loves hearing “oh I get a raise next week because no more social security taxes in may?


31 posted on 02/24/2023 7:29:23 PM PST by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: nickcarraway

Has anyone else noticed that Biden has purchased tons of radio advertising time to encourage people to sign up for Social Security Disability (SSI)?


32 posted on 02/24/2023 9:03:46 PM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: nickcarraway

Wrong S.S. is sustainable, it’s Medicare and Medicaid that aren’t.


33 posted on 02/24/2023 9:07:24 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: ridesthemiles

you could fix social security (or at least some of the problem) by going through the “disabled” and making sure they really are and are citizens.


34 posted on 02/25/2023 8:40:19 AM PST by cableguymn
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Social security is theft from current generations to pay for past generations who did not prepare.

Previous SS money was stolen by congress by the way. That is why current funds pay for retirees.


35 posted on 02/25/2023 4:26:25 PM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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