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Unless We Abandon Globalism, China Will Win: China doesn’t care about international law, should we?
Frontpage Mag ^ | 02/16/2023 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 02/16/2023 8:13:10 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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China doesn’t care about international law, should we?

There's no such thing as "international law".

Law requires a lawgiver. The fifty States united have, under their Constitution delegated SOME of their lawgiving powers to a Congress where each State is represented by two delegates (they are called Senators).

That Constitution begins, "ALL legislative powers herein granted...", and goes on to describe the structures of the Congress, and what it can and cannot do.

No power to make laws that bind the 50 States united exists anywhere else on Earth.

21 posted on 02/17/2023 4:58:04 AM PST by Jim Noble (You have sat too long for any good you have been doing)
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To: central_va

Most of our founding fathers made fortunes off of agriculture and still they were to a man on board with import tariffs. Amazing vision these guys had.

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Industry/Manufacturing and Agriculture are natural allies.

When Trump raised tariffs on Chinese goods, it was amusing to watch Wall Street & every left-wing nut in the country pretend to care about the interests of farmers.


22 posted on 02/17/2023 5:02:38 AM PST by unclebankster ( Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: adorno

You forgot your sarcasm tag.


23 posted on 02/17/2023 9:38:54 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("There is no good government at all & none possible."--Mark Twain)
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To: Albion Wilde
You forgot your sarcasm tag.

Because I know that there are at least half the population of the U.S. and other western countries that feel that it's 'better red than dead', or many just don't care, even if they lose their countries and freedoms.
24 posted on 02/17/2023 9:43:32 AM PST by adorno
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To: DouglasKC
i”m convinced China is completely BEHIND the globalism thing. They’re probably the ones who created it.

Disagree. The arrogance and naïveté of a young America, fresh off the heroism of WW2 and led by its "educated" class, thought up this idea of using the poor in other countries to produce our easily replicated consumer goods as a means of commercial efficiency. Obviously the Republicans of yore were in favor of it.

It was a hugely misbegotten idea, as Greenfield deftly points out—a sort of worldwide hysteria to never have a world war again by buying peace. This country thought so highly of itself that it did not reckon with the obvious downside of becoming unequally yoked into binding relationships with non-Christian societies with different concepts of morality.

We are now in the midst of another worldwide hysteria, or perhaps another iteration of the same worldwide hysteria, so we have no excuse for denying that a worldwide hysteria can happen. This one (plandemic + climate change) is aided and abetted by the internet; so the urgency around figuring it out and neutralizing its destructive power is paramount.

25 posted on 02/17/2023 9:51:26 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("There is no good government at all & none possible."--Mark Twain)
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To: Brian Griffin
The people of China are generally good.

A fundamentally anti-Western idea at its core. The great majority of people go where they are led. It is only an individual recognition of the salvific atonement of Christ that frees a person, and the nation that affirms this reality.

America was great when it was a Christian nation. This land was dedicated to Christ at the Plymouth landing. Contrary to popular misinformation, and regardless of denominational variations, virtually all the Founders acknowledged the Biblical foundations of Western thought. The attendent beliefs have been cited multiple times even in our Supreme Court decisions up until the end of WW2. In my lifetime, I've watched it all being disassembled, piece by piece, starting in 1948. Now look.

26 posted on 02/17/2023 10:03:11 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("There is no good government at all & none possible."--Mark Twain)
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To: Nextrush

Going green is serfdom ruled by tyranny.


27 posted on 02/17/2023 10:06:27 AM PST by citizen (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people - John Adams 1798)
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To: nathanbedford
I remain perplexed about why the Chinese have, in effect, poked a sleeping giant.

Greenfield's well-taken point is that the giant is no longer just sleeping, but rather is drugged, anesthetized, unable to respond. He is calling for extreme awareness of the patient's near-death situation. Bring the paddles and stand clear.

28 posted on 02/17/2023 10:08:06 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("There is no good government at all & none possible."--Mark Twain)
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To: Reaganez
We must abandon Nativism.

What do you mean? We should allow a foreign-born person to be President? We already did.
We should allow foreign-born persons to live here and receive benefits without even applying for citizenship? We already do.
We should allow foreign-born persons to vote in local elections? Ditto.
We should allow foreign-born persons to vote in Federal elections? No one is stopping them.
We should allow foreign-born persons to supplant American workers, in fact to train their replacements and just go away? Yes, we do that as well.

Please explain what you mean by nativism.

29 posted on 02/17/2023 10:16:12 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("There is no good government at all & none possible."--Mark Twain)
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To: adorno
Because I know that there are at least half the population of the U.S. and other western countries that feel that it's 'better red than dead', or many just don't care, even if they lose their countries and freedoms.

So what? You just post a declarative sentence without qualifier? We are not mind-readers. "Thoughts held in mind reproduce after their kind."

We are supposed to be leading conservative thought here, not giving up the fight on behalf of looking down on those needing to be led.

30 posted on 02/17/2023 10:20:31 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("There is no good government at all & none possible."--Mark Twain)
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To: central_va
Tariffs are part of a solution; they are not the entire solution. Trump had a larger solution, but the globalist ideologists beat him and his followers in the Chinese way: by declaring the law irrelevant to the revolution's requirements.

Rejecting Greenfield's broad and deep, eagle-eye overview displays a failure to comprehend the political complexity of this situation, and the need for profound, many-pronged response. Pray for it; our nation is on life-support.

31 posted on 02/17/2023 10:26:55 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("There is no good government at all & none possible."--Mark Twain)
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To: Albion Wilde

There is no complexity at all. Tariffs are the tried and true solution to globalism eating the econmy alive. The sophistry here is BS.


32 posted on 02/17/2023 10:59:17 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Reaganez
We must abandon Nativism.

Dumbest, most dergrading comment today. Here is my response - F off.

33 posted on 02/17/2023 11:04:01 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

Your simplistic reductionism is what is bs here. Grow up.


34 posted on 02/17/2023 11:20:23 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("There is no good government at all & none possible."--Mark Twain)
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To: Jim Noble
There's no such thing as "international law"

If two or more nations recognise that there is such a thing, and the same thing, as 'international law', then 'international law' exists.

If one or more nations refuse to recognise that there is such a thing as 'international law', then 'international law' does not ipso facto cease to exist.

35 posted on 02/17/2023 12:16:19 PM PST by Winniesboy
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To: Albion Wilde
So what? You just post a declarative sentence without qualifier? We are not mind-readers.
>BR> You and I, and perhaps most of the members, and most republicans, know sarcasm when they see it, and no qualifiers need be applied.

The truth is evident everywhere, and the lies are also evident.

If sarcasm tags are needed every time sarcasm is uttered, then, perhaps people need to get better informat about what's true or not, since, common sense and facts are easily recognized.

But, for those less enlightened about everyday life, I'l probably use the sarcasm tag a bit more.
36 posted on 02/17/2023 2:47:17 PM PST by adorno
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To: adorno

Enjoy your nosebleeds from so high up on your horse.


37 posted on 02/17/2023 2:51:39 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("There is no good government at all & none possible."--Mark Twain)
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To: Albion Wilde
Enjoy your nosebleeds from so high up on your horse.

Nah!

I only get a stuffy nose. ;)

But, that's a good idea, so, I'll have to go ride a horse to see if I can get high and a nosebleed at the same time. Have you gotten that before? ;)
38 posted on 02/17/2023 5:48:58 PM PST by adorno
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To: Albion Wilde

Read history. It’s not rocket surgery. Even you could understand it.


39 posted on 02/17/2023 7:06:05 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Brian Griffin

Our government behaves more and more like the single party authoritarian leftist ChiCom state. There is not much friction betaeen the USA nand China because the 2 governments share the same philosophy under the covers.


40 posted on 02/17/2023 7:07:21 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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