Posted on 01/03/2023 7:56:39 PM PST by libh8er
Bomb, Cyclone, Express
Danger, Danger, Will Robinson!
Born and raised in Northern California. None of this is new. The old Pineapple Express had nothing to do with cold temps. The high in Sacramento today was 50 degrees, hardly tropical.
I remember in the 1960s in the San Francisco area, it would become a little warmer in late November, and the term Indian Summer was invented. Then, locals started calling anything warm in September or October, Indian Summer. I ceased paying attention to most all weather reports many, many moons ago. They cannot predict anything. And, the phraseology they use is hilarious: perhaps, chance of, partial, maybe... If I used those terms in any job I ever had, I wouldn’t be ‘partially’ fired.
And yes, I remain in what is now Kalifornia because of family. We do have our eye on Texas, Montana, Wyoming, and Florida. Perhaps, maybe we can convince enough family to move with us, and then, we are out of here!
This has been called The Pineapple Express for decades.
It’s just a bunch of warm rain. California needs it. Dam the rivers, build reservoirs and maybe we can survive the next five years of drought and fires. It’s cyclic.
Buncha hooey.
So...
...the drought’s over, huh?
Imagine that. /s
The storms were called Pineapple Express long before the movie or weed.
Cross your fingers, but one report I heard said this storm will be significantly cooler than last week’s storm. So more of it will fall as snow in the mountains and we won’t get so much runoff down in the valley.
I’m a weather fan. Open Snow is very good and lacks the hype. Reasonably low snow this storm, about 5000 feet during the height of the storm on Thursday. More to come. Maybe as much as ten inches of water content over the next ten days. Ratios vary, but ten inches of snow per inch of moisture is a rough rule of thumb, so maybe 100 inches at some locations
https://opensnow.com/dailysnow/tahoe/post/28267
It is just weather.
Like Guam tipping over, maybe the extra weight will cause California to break away?
And to think that I got a Larry Norman greatest hits album for my bday.
And someone else on FR even knows who he is ...
Newsome is the worst governor.....Please get the word out...He is a disaster like his auntie Pelosi.
Farmers up North in CA have signs out on their properties that he is dumping CA water into the oceans. And there are people that NEED water up North.
Dams catch the rain water and stop it from running straight out into the ocean.
If he were a good governor he would be fixing CA’s water issues and building more aquifers and instead he wants to get rid of four very important dams up in Northern CA that are not only used for irrigation but also to put out fires. These dams may also be hydroelectric plants. That is clean energy that this gruesome Newsome is desiring to take away. No dams should be taken down. Dams were made for a reason.
This gruesome, devilish plan is to remove JC Boyle, Copco 1, Copco 2 and Iron Gate dams, with the biggest dams scheduled to be removed in 2024.
It will be a outlandish $500 million cost to taxpayers and the majority of residents in the surrounding communities oppose it but Newsome is destroying and moving ahead.
At https://ktvl.com/news/local/siskiyou-county-water-users-association-oppose-removal-of-klamath-dams I read,
“The public comment period for FERC’s draft proposal for the dams’ removal is open until Apr. 18. If the plan is approved, the work to remove the dams will begin in late 2023.”
And at this site: https://californiaglobe.com/articles/lawsuit-filed-to-halt-removal-of-northern-ca-klamath-river-hydroelectric-dams/
We read this:
Newsome is the destroyer here. President Trump was the hero for these people, to restore water to them: At the above site I read, “In 2018, President Donald Trump signed an executive order to help the federally-operated Central Valley Project and the California State Water Project in California, the Klamath Irrigation Project in Oregon and California and the Columbia River Basin system in the Pacific Northwest. “We will resolve the issues blocking the completion of the Central Valley project,” Trump said. “I hope you enjoy the water that you’re going to have.”
But then the disaster of Newsome and the others mentioned above have worked their destruction and are planning this horrible removal of the dams.
We need to pray for CA and for Newsome to be removed not the dams.
Dear Lord, have mercy on CA. The people recalled Newsome but many of us in CA believe Newsome cheated and stayed in office.
He and his auntie are very unliked in NORTHERN CA because of the mess they have made of it.
Dear Lord, Please deliver us from this nuisance. Amen.
Damming the rivers and building reservoirs won't help at all. There are more important things like delicate snail habitats to protect. And don't forget the spawning salmon. You and your d**n logic. Sheesh!
Nothing new is correct
It’s also why California built so many dams back in the day to catch all the winter run off in anticipation of the dry spells California is prone and to keep the growing cities aptly supplied with potable water.
They looked ahead. Something their leaders today need to be mindful of but are sorely lacking
RE:and the term Indian Summer was invented
I heard the esteemed meteorologist on WJR decades ago say “Itis not truly Indian Summer unless there was a full frost followed by warming, not just cool weather and then not cool.”
However, I saw maybe half a dozen different views on that.
Also, this polluting action by the Native Americans which would be totally banned today:
From MPRNews.org October 12, 2017.
When European settlers first came across the phenomenon in America it became known as the Indian’s Summer. The haziness of the Indian Summer weather was caused by prairie fires deliberately set by Native American tribes. It was the period when First Nations/Native American peoples harvested their crops.
yes, it is a bunch of warm(er) rain but coming back to back with hard rain, the ground is now saturated and so we’ll see more trees down, and more landslides/broken levees. Speaking of which:
“Two breaks along Cosumnes River that flooded Highway 99 traced to private land owner, county has no jurisdiction to repair”
https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/breaks-that-flooded-hwy-99-traced-to-private-land-owner-county-no-jurisdiction/
RE: Will this be the time part of California falls into the Pacific Ocean? Asking for a friend.
That question was so popular when the Donovan song “Atlantis” was in the Top Ten.
Tell your friend to keep up hope, disdain the rumors and fears that hold us back, and light a single candle rather than curse the darkness.
Note: This was falsely attributed to Eleanor Roosevelt and also to “the ancient Chinese.” Not verified for either.
Adlai Stevenson famously eulogized her with the statement, “she would rather light a candle than curse the darkness, and her glow has warmed the world.” But as so often happens, Buzzkillers, a quote about a famous person gets attributed as a quote from that person. And there’s no evidence that Eleanor Roosevelt ever said it, nor that it originated with her. May have been William Lonsdale Watkinson or Thomas Carlyle.
https://professorbuzzkill.com/eleanor-roosevelt-candle-qnq/
As I learned it growing up in New England, the term referred to the warm period after first frost, when the Indians, who weren’t bright enough to have prepared for winter, came around begging or stealing food.
That'll be when Donald Fagen goes back to Annandale.
The snow that counts, that creates our annual snowpack which melts in the spring and summer to feed our rivers and reservoirs, is all at high altitude anyway. Our current statewide snowpack is at 175% percent of average for today's date, and will increase significantly with this storm. But even the lower altitude rain helps refill reservoirs to a point. More reservoirs would help even more, as would a dozen or more desalination plants. Praying for a really wet winter every 3 or 5 years is a poor plan.
Hopefully we don't have a repeat of last year, when we started with above average rain/snowfall then almost zero after December.
Now that is the correct answer I think.
They had hundreds of years to improve their lives from primitive status (apparently little changed since the Bering land bridge days) but when we got to North America we originated the Age of Invention with Ford, Bell, Edison, Westinghouse and the rest improving lives by tremendous and rapid leaps. Railroads, telephones, telegraphs, electric lines and much more quickly left the native Americans behind.
Sorry, what does that mean?
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