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Defense One ^ | 02-DEC-2022 | Defense One

Posted on 12/02/2022 5:02:46 PM PST by SpeedyInTexas

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To: FtrPilot

He was pretty clear it was the intake structure that was of concern. It rally caught me by surprise. Maybe materials? No idea.


61 posted on 12/02/2022 10:22:41 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (If you're not part of the solution, you're just scumming up the bottom of the beaker!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Three or four?

Maybe. πŸ€ͺπŸ˜€πŸ‘πŸ˜†β˜οΈ

62 posted on 12/03/2022 12:37:48 AM PST by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: FtrPilot

That caught my eye also. Interesting.


63 posted on 12/03/2022 12:39:28 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: imardmd1

Wow. That would be a lifespan for the B-52 of about 85 years.
No. Not 85 years—that would have been 1937 earliest design. I doubt that.

Mentioned end-of-life for B-52 in year 2035
Initial development: c. 1950

2035 - 1950 = 85 years


64 posted on 12/03/2022 4:45:48 AM PST by Flick Lives (Cui bono)
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To: Flick Lives

OK, I guess I missed that pointm


65 posted on 12/03/2022 5:39:35 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux (Let There Be [God's] Light!))
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To: imardmd1
Hiding the metal (turbine blades) in the front of the engine from radar.

Above is a picture of an F-15...no stealth. If there were sufficient light in the intake, you would see some turbine blades of both engines.

Below is a picture of an F-22...stealth.

If there were sufficient light in the intake, you would not see turbine blades of either engines.

Engine exhaust heat is a stealth issue for heat seeking missiles. IR SAMs typically can't reach the altitude where these guys fly.

66 posted on 12/03/2022 7:50:31 AM PST by FtrPilot
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Probably RAM (Radar Absorbing Material).


67 posted on 12/03/2022 8:08:19 AM PST by FtrPilot
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To: Jonty30

“It doesn’t look like it has a large carrying capacity.”

It’s not intended to be a B-52 style bomb truck used to carpet bomb area targets.


68 posted on 12/03/2022 10:33:37 AM PST by 2CAVTrooper (One Nation, Under Fraud Completely Visible, With Spying and Lying To All.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“Three or four?”

The air force plans on a minimum of 100, with options for an additional 45 to 100.

As it stands right now, we only have about 65 bombers across 3 different platforms that are mission capable at any one time.


69 posted on 12/03/2022 10:42:45 AM PST by 2CAVTrooper (One Nation, Under Fraud Completely Visible, With Spying and Lying To All.)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

β€œ3 or 4” was a joke based on the F22 budget and procurement debacle.


70 posted on 12/03/2022 10:47:10 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (If you're not part of the solution, you're just scumming up the bottom of the beaker!)
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To: FtrPilot

Great images. Thank you so much for posting them!


71 posted on 12/03/2022 11:03:34 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux (Let There Be [God's] Light!))
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To: 2CAVTrooper

Yes, I understand that now.
I never read prior that it was to replace the B-2, but some artificial it was being produced to replace the B-52


72 posted on 12/03/2022 1:43:44 PM PST by Jonty30 (You can't spell liberal without the a-hole. )
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To: imardmd1

“The B52’s military service has outlasted that of many aircraft of every air force across the globe, eh?”

About the same as the Tu-95 Bear (November 1952)


73 posted on 12/03/2022 3:43:30 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (One Nation, Under Fraud Completely Visible, With Spying and Lying To All.)
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To: Vermont Lt

“I noticed the intakes mentioned a couple times. Can anyone explain why the intakes matter that much.”

Has something to do with the internal shape and the baffles inside that block radar waves from reaching the fan blades of the engines.


74 posted on 12/03/2022 3:49:24 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (One Nation, Under Fraud Completely Visible, With Spying and Lying To All.)
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To: imardmd1; Flick Lives

“Wow. That would be a lifespan for the B-52 of about 85 years.”

“No. Not 85 years—that would have been 1937 earliest design. I doubt that.”

I believe that Flick was referring to is that the B-52 will be at least 85 years old if they were to start being retired in 2035.

Although, I’ve read that the air force is planning on keeping them until 2050-2055 timeframe hence the reason for the new engines and radars being installed.

https://theaviationist.com/2022/09/25/b-52-new-engine-nacelles-test/


75 posted on 12/03/2022 4:12:56 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (One Nation, Under Fraud Completely Visible, With Spying and Lying To All.)
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To: The Duke

“paper tiger”

Isn’t that what the chicoms named their H-20 “stealth” bomber?


76 posted on 12/03/2022 4:16:16 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (One Nation, Under Fraud Completely Visible, With Spying and Lying To All.)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

Although, I’ve read that the air force is planning on keeping them until 2050-2055 timeframe hence the reason for the new engines and radars being installed.

That would be even more amazing. It would be as if the Air Force were flying aircraft today which were operational back in WW1. That is a testament to one heck of a good design.


77 posted on 12/03/2022 4:23:16 PM PST by Flick Lives (Cui bono)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“β€œ3 or 4” was a joke based on the F22 budget and procurement debacle.”

If the F-22 was procured on a 1 for 1 replacement schedule to include the F-15E and export to Japan and Israel (approx 1,000 airframes total) it would have been a lot cheaper.


78 posted on 12/03/2022 4:30:28 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (One Nation, Under Fraud Completely Visible, With Spying and Lying To All.)
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To: 2CAVTrooper
Yeah, I'm no expert in this history except for watching it all happen.

Not many people still alive that were soused in the consuming events of WWII. My remembrances are rooted in the daily opening of my first grade indoctrination in September 1942 by learning the words of the Salute to our Flag, and starting every school day by applying it, still a procedure that remains my goal of how to be an American Patriot, never to be forgotten through all eternity.

The moniker 2CAVTrooper rings the Liberty Bell for me, my FRiend, loud and clear! (Even though I've always been little cracked myself, heh heh!)

And my sincere gratefulness for your priceless service to the God-given Republic for which our Ensign stands.

79 posted on 12/03/2022 5:29:35 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux (Let There Be [God's] Light!))
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To: Flick Lives
The B-52 is probably in existence like my old axe, had it all my life, best one never made better, only needed two heads and five handles.

(I wonder how much of a weight burden the changes of its avionics has resulted in a bigger payload.)

80 posted on 12/03/2022 5:54:47 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux (Let There Be [God's] Light!))
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