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Elite Russian Naval Unit Reacts to Stunning Loss of 300 Men in Pavlivka: 'Baffling'
MSN ^ | 11-7 | Thomas Kika

Posted on 11/07/2022 2:54:16 PM PST by dennisw

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To: dennisw

Imma go out on a limb and say “common Ukrainian soldiers” is a euphemism for proxy special ops dudes and dudettes. We are not spending $20B so a former comedian can fight Russia.


21 posted on 11/07/2022 3:17:27 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (The kernel of our firm's job is to go with lots. - tnlibertarian job offer letter)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Put some Hush on your barking, little M-Tacnik.


22 posted on 11/07/2022 3:18:51 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: MinorityRepublican

 

In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Elite Russian Naval Unit Reacts to Stunning Loss of 300 Men in Pavlivka: 'Baffling' , MinorityRepublican wrote:
So far 65,000 Russians have been killed. That's around 1/3 of the size of the invasion force.

Apparently Putin was able to mobilize 300,000 troops. So the war is not even half over.

 

According to Col Douglas MacGregor, America and other western nations built the Ukrainian army up to 600,000troops for the express purpose of attacking Russia.

In the first few months of the conflict, most of Ukraine's best fighters were killed. At present MacGregor says that the Ukranians have had 100,000 soldiers killed, anywhere from 200,000 to 400,000 injured and now are resorting to 'canon fodder', people with little training and experience.

40% of the power grid was down meaning Kyiv may have to evacuate it's 3 million residents. Blackouts are common due to damage and the grid is not sufficiently powered to handle the coming cold weather.

Putin will cease utilizing the volunteers currently conducting combat operations in the Ukraine and will switch to more experienced trained Russian Army troops. The missiles Russia used to disable the electrical grid will continue to fall as Zelensky refuses to concede,  thereby leaving the citizens inthe dark as winter approaches.

In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled US Announces Plans to Send $400 Million More to Ukraine in Military Aid , Chunga85 wrote:

Col. Douglas MacGregor weighs in on this tragic fiasco. Of course the warmongering wing of FR will, inexplicably, call him a commie and Russian stooge.

Warnings this is about to get much worse, Putin readies for NATO attack | Redacted w Clayton Morris

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtKn3zCzZ5g


23 posted on 11/07/2022 3:21:12 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

Thats the Russkie claim. Russkies also claim to be killing them left and right though but can’t produce a body.


24 posted on 11/07/2022 3:21:12 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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I think most people without strong feelings in favor of either side probably think that Ukraine must be doing relatively well because they still exist and Russia must be doing relatively badly because they are still fighting in the same areas.

The sooner this ends, the better, nothing good is going to come from this.


25 posted on 11/07/2022 3:25:41 PM PST by Peter ODonnell (Cultural elder -- problem is, that only counts for every other culture)
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To: ransomnote
...for the express purpose of attacking Russia defending Ukraine from russian aggression...

Fixed it for you
26 posted on 11/07/2022 3:30:00 PM PST by lump in the melting pot (Believe nothing until it is denied by the Kremlin)
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To: dennisw

Naval Infantry? Do they walk on water? I don’t believe I’ve ever heard of Naval Infantry so maybe it’s the rooski equivalent to our Marines.


27 posted on 11/07/2022 3:32:29 PM PST by EandH Dad (sleeping giants wake up REALLY grumpy)
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This “letter” has been debunked. It was in Russian and when translated said nothing at all like what is claimed. It also appeared to be a machine translation into Russian from some other original language.

None of this Pavlika story ever happened.


28 posted on 11/07/2022 3:35:17 PM PST by Owen
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To: kiryandil
ACTUALLY, it's about 100,000 Ukrainian KIA to 10-12,000 RuZZian KIA.

If you lump the Ukrainian civilian KIA from 8 months of shelling, rocketing, missile attack and execution by Infantry evidenced by mass graves in destroyed cities then the 100k number is realistic. As far as Ukrainian military dead, everyone's playing those numbers tight to the vest.

29 posted on 11/07/2022 3:35:22 PM PST by redcatcherb412
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To: kiryandil

“Zero Ukrainian casualties, as usual.”

The article didn’t say that. The article just didn’t mention Ukrainian casualties. It didn’t say, “There were zero Ukrainian casualties,” or “There were no Ukrainian casualties.”

Your bias is well known; but don’t compound it by making sh!t up.


30 posted on 11/07/2022 3:39:36 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Owen

Got any link or reference on that?


31 posted on 11/07/2022 3:40:28 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: kiryandil

“ACTUALLY, it’s about 100,000 Ukrainian KIA to 10-12,000 RuZZian KIA.”

That wouldn’t surprise me, since Russia has been killing a lot of Ukrainian civilians.


32 posted on 11/07/2022 3:46:31 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Peter ODonnell

“ I think most people without strong feelings in favor of either side probably think that Ukraine must be doing relatively well because they still exist and Russia must be doing relatively badly because they are still fighting in the same areas.

The sooner this ends, the better, nothing good is going to come from this.”

Yes.
You are a voice of reason.


33 posted on 11/07/2022 3:47:32 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Have you seen Joe Biden's picture on a milk carton?)
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To: kiryandil

“I see that Greta let you out for a walk.
Is there a pet door for you, or does she just let you out in the back yard, Greta’s_Puny_Human?”

Good grief: Can you be any more juvenile?


34 posted on 11/07/2022 3:49:12 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: dennisw

‘Elite’

I remember when Stormin’ Norman Swartzcroft was getting ready to take on the ‘incredible’ Republican Guard. They stated that Iraq had the state-of-the-art Russian equipment, so not just the Republican Guard, but Russian Air Defense, etc. We warned the Russians back then, and Trump warned them when we had to take on Isis in Syria. Both times many Russians died.

I pray the Russian soldiers that escape from the tyranny can live a long life somewhere, and perhaps return to Russia when it is safe.


35 posted on 11/07/2022 3:51:41 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try. )
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To: dennisw

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/11/6/7375241/


36 posted on 11/07/2022 3:52:05 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: ransomnote

“According to Col Douglas MacGregor, America and other western nations built the Ukrainian army up to 600,000troops for the express purpose of attacking Russia.”

That right there cements the lack of credibility of MacGregor.

No one — and I mean NO ONE — would ever contemplate attacking Russia with only 600,000 troops.


37 posted on 11/07/2022 3:53:37 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: dennisw
Real casualties are, essentially, a state secret.

Both sides can be expected to hold them close to the vest.

Claiming you are really winning, after a serious defeat, goes back as far as Egyptian Pharoes.

38 posted on 11/07/2022 3:57:34 PM PST by marktwain
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As far as Ukrainian military dead, everyone's playing those numbers tight to the vest.

Don't want to spook the Ukie cannon fodder cattle as they're herded up the single file chute to the front lines...

39 posted on 11/07/2022 4:13:29 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: The Duke

I believe in maps showing who holds what territory. As it stands now, Ukraine has regained territory lost(with substantial American hardware) and Russia isn’t the cold war juggernaut we thought it was and has a hard time beating a barely second world nation.
Putin maybe fighting with one hand tied behind his back but Mother Russia has a lot of territory to defend from hungry neighbors (cough,cough China) and cannot afford to go “whole hog” into Ukraine.

Beyond that, is anyone’s guess.


40 posted on 11/07/2022 4:21:00 PM PST by RedMonqey
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