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Russia’s Use of Iranian Kamikaze Drones Creates New Dangers for Ukrainian Troops
Wall Street Journal ^ | Sept. 17, 2022 8:51 am ET | Yaroslav Trofimov

Posted on 09/17/2022 7:08:09 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

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1 posted on 09/17/2022 7:08:09 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: marcusmaximus; Paul R.; Bruce Campbells Chin; PIF; familyop; MercyFlush; tet68; BeauBo; TalBlack; ..

Ukraine ping

Iranian technology tends to be written off as complete junk. In the case of this particular drone, however, they may have something good going here. The Ukrainians will have to figure out a counter. At any rate, until a solution is found, this might slow down their advances into Russian-held territory.


2 posted on 09/17/2022 7:09:01 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Zhang Fei

I wonder if Iran got the technology from that drone Obama allowed to fly in to their country?


3 posted on 09/17/2022 7:12:09 PM PDT by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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OMG! The Russians are using bad-ass weapons that are DAMAGING the Ukes stuff...and they got those weapons from another country! Isn’t that, like, against some rules? I mean, a country is supposed to use kinder, gentler weapons, right? and they shouldn’t be bumming stuff off other countries, right?

LOL!


4 posted on 09/17/2022 7:14:10 PM PDT by blu (Bagster's ping on the side oh, and FJB!)
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To: Zhang Fei

The whole point of proxy wars and escalation …

Since the west is doing the same thing, this isn’t surprising.


5 posted on 09/17/2022 7:16:19 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: Zhang Fei

Horrible timing. This could help Russia’s invasion. The military strategy books will have to be re-written to factor in drones and other modern technology.


6 posted on 09/17/2022 7:18:09 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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This proxy war is like the Spanish Civil War in that these outside countries are testing out weapons and strategies.


7 posted on 09/17/2022 7:26:09 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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[Horrible timing. This could help Russia’s invasion. The military strategy books will have to be re-written to factor in drones and other modern technology.]


This isn’t new tech, but Albania is allegedly supplying 60mm Chinese-made mortar rounds to Ukraine, which has adopted the M224.

https://mil.in.ua/en/news/the-ukrainian-military-uses-m224-mortars-in-combat/
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1571180467377917952.html


8 posted on 09/17/2022 7:26:48 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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This is the typical “Poor Ukes are finished” propaganda our state Dept loves to propogate through outlets like the WSJ... wanting the reader to conclude, the only hope for the Ukes is American Technology & money.

Some of the claims of the drone are pretty fantastical, like 2,500 KM range. Even if it could fligh that far, with what kind of datalink/sattelite network does that happen?

Yes, they will kill some people and break some stuff, but They won’t have even a minor impact on the war outcome. If Ukraine had an oil refinery (like Saudi). maybe one would put it out of commision for a couple days.


9 posted on 09/17/2022 7:31:24 PM PDT by UNGN
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American money (taxpayer money) to buy American tech:

Fox8
Zelensky to headline US defense industry conference

9/12/22

https://fox8-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/fox8.com/hill-politics/zelensky-to-headline-us-defense-industry-conference/amp/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16630852248817&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Ffox8.com%2Fhill-politics%2Fzelensky-to-headline-us-defense-industry-conference%2F


10 posted on 09/17/2022 7:33:32 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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You keep pinging me, I’m not on your ping list, I prefer to just read the threads on my own.


11 posted on 09/17/2022 7:35:22 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Are these flying beyond the range that shotguns usually take them out?


12 posted on 09/17/2022 7:48:35 PM PDT by Does so (https//youtu.be/3PxEWB6W8ig ......Uke's Independence Day Parade. Anthem starts at 15:00)
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To: Karliner
Thinking the same thing.

It was a delta wing.

13 posted on 09/17/2022 7:50:46 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Interesting. Albania had been more or less aligned with China during part of the Cold War. I guess Albania isn’t thrilled with the possibility of a renewed Russian empire so they are helping Ukraine.


14 posted on 09/17/2022 7:54:58 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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Various specs, tho’ I don’t see how big the thing is:

https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.php?aircraft_id=2520


15 posted on 09/17/2022 8:19:49 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Zhang Fei
Unknown/answered questions:

How any drones did Iran give to Russia?
How many can Iran or Russia produce and how soon?
What are available countermeasures?

From two years ago, Here's the New Marine Corps Weapon that Just Destroyed an Iranian Drone. When a Iranian drone got too close to the USS Boxer. It was claimed that the Marines "Light Marine Air Defense Integrated System" LMADIS (say that ten times fast) jammed the drone.

16 posted on 09/17/2022 8:26:08 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - Just say no to CCCP 2.0)
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Tell me what to expect when we begin to see Chinese weaponry in Ukraine. I see no reason Xi would not sell (trade for cheap oil) the best he has to Putin. He would remind us that we have no qualms supplying Taipei with advanced weapons. When Russia replaces its lost tanks will they all be of Russian manufacture? Russian built with Chicom steel?


17 posted on 09/17/2022 8:27:09 PM PDT by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Zhang Fei

Stolen US tech that Obama gave them.


18 posted on 09/17/2022 8:34:10 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm5icaLbUMA

Putin press conference yesterday. Looks and sounds pretty good for a guy with cancer, parkinsons, Covid and pretty much anything else The Daily Mail imagined.


19 posted on 09/17/2022 8:35:28 PM PDT by Owen
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It’s tech Obama let them “steal” from us.


20 posted on 09/17/2022 8:37:38 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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