Posted on 07/23/2022 11:41:02 AM PDT by familyop
Even if the grain deal is legit and goes into effect, it will take weeks to clear out all the mines dropped in the harbor.
This topic was talked about on Steve Bannon’s War Room this morning.
Lets hope the righteous grain/wheat of the righteous Ukraine farmers gets exported and they money. Gambling in Vagas is bllsht compared to what Ukie farmers are doing
Slava Ukraini!
So one month to clear out the mines in the Odessa harbor. Not a big deal as far I can see.
This spin reminds me of the Russian “apartment complex” strike in Vinnytsia a few weeks ago. The MSM cried OMG - they hit a civilian apartment complex! They killed a child!
Turns out, over the next week, Ukraine announced the death of four air-force generals.
In this case, the grain will still flow, as agreed. I imagine there was a military target (or one the Russians suspected was a military target) at the port that was hit with the two missiles.
ANNA NEWS
🇺🇦🇬🇧Consequences of a strike on Odessa It is reported that as a result of missiles hitting the Odessa port area, several ships of the Ukrainian Navy were put out of action. UPD: messages not confirmed @anna_news
🇹🇷🇺🇦🇬🇧Russia is not involved in the morning shelling of the port of Odessa
The Turkish Ministry of Defense reports that they discussed with their Russian colleagues the morning shelling of the port of Odessa.
As stated in Turkey, the Russian side denied involvement in the incident.
Presumably, we are talking about a provocation planned and carried out by the Ukrainian side in order to accuse Russia of not fulfilling the conditions for the export of Ukrainian grain.
@anna_news
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As stated in Turkey, the Russian side denied involvement in the incident.
⚠️⚡️Addendum, here are the AFP reports. 👇⚡️
AFP
AFP News Agency@AFP. 3m
#UPDATE Moscow has denied carrying out
any attack on the Ukrainian port of
Odessa, the Turkish defence minister said
Saturday, a day after Moscow and Kyiv
penned a deal to resume grain exports.
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AFP News Agency @AFP. 29s
#UPDATE Ukraine’s President Volodymyr
Zelenksy accused Russia of routinely
violating agreements after Moscow’s forces
Saturday bombed the Odessa port, key to a
grain export deal the warring parties signed
a day earlier.
AFP
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Who benefits from it? The reader may form his own opinion.
Both previous tweets☝️ contain the ANNA NEWS report about the issue.
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It is highly unlikely that the shelling was from Russian troops. Almost certainly Kiev producing another false-flag in the hope of getting US more involved!
Oh, so it is groovy to bomb the port while mines are being cleared so the food can be sent to hungry people later rather than sooner. Hope the hungry nations let Putin know what a great friend he is, and how well he subscribes to the “goal” of Communism to provide for the poor of the world./s
Russia is claiming it wasn’t their missiles and they are investigating the incident.
And whose Navy will be clearing those mines ??
If it’s the Russian Navy what happens if Ukraine sinks a couple with the missiles we gave them.
If it’s the US Navy, I would doubt seriously that would happen and Ukraine if they have a Navy that could do the job what are the odds Russia would sit by and allow that.
So yes, it might not be that difficult to clear the mines, except no one will step up and do it.
Aside from the fact this sounds like typical Pooty Pal propaganda, I doubt the propaganda value for Ukraine would be worth putting several of their own ships out of action. It is in their interest to feed hungry people, especially if they are being paid for the grain. Of course we know the Russians never lie/s
It is impossible to read this link without accepting their cookies. Sorry, I am on a low carb diet. Can anyone post a clean link?
In other words, Ukraine is bringing in US supplied weapons in violation of the agreement. Russia simply took em out. Not to worry though, biden will send them more so the Russians will have plenty of target practice.
“Russia is claiming it wasn’t their missiles and they are investigating the incident.”
Too funny!
Would it be alright to accept the cookies then delete them from the browser afterwards? My browser does that automatically along with allowing scripts only with a click from me.
And there’s the Sky News link in comment #2. Will that work for you?
On June 18th I posted the following posts.
NEZYGAR
The level of real irretrievable losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has crossed all critical levels so much that the office of President Zelensky is forced to spend about €3.5 million daily to disavow these shocks among the population and the European audience.
€2 million goes to Euronews and smaller European media from Germany, France, Italy and Poland, €1 million goes to LOM and TG channels from the Baltics, the near-political establishment of Ukraine and the CIS countries, the rest is distributed to premiums and bonuses for functionaries of the 95th quarter.
According to MI6 data, which were handed over to the European Commissioners and European deputies, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine amount to 176,000 killed and 41,000 seriously wounded on June 1, 22, without the possibility of returning to the theater, about 38,000 are considered missing.
According to the BND and the Polish intelligence services, which were shown at a closed briefing before the NATO summit, Ukraine’s losses in killed on the battlefield, plus the accompanying losses of civilians, exceeded 210 thousand people by 06/10/22.
According to NATO experts, as well as on the analysis of the NSA, which monitor social networks and special groups of mothers-wives-native Ukrainian soldiers, the losses range from 110 thousand to 197 thousand people, where the proportion of dead and missing is 45% to 55%.
The loss of military equipment and ammunition, as well as new types of weapons and unmanned aircraft, is 73%, and the shortage of fuel and lubricants has grown to 58% among BTGs on the front line of the line of contact.
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According to Nezygar about the losses of Ukraine, everything is 100% correct, even the dates, and the most interesting thing is that Ursula von der Leyen knew about this when she came to Kiev. Zelensky told her that he would consider the figure of 400-450 thousand people to be critical, and this will happen at the current level of losses no earlier than March 2023.
The BND and the NATO Ground Forces Command believe that by August 1, the level of losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be more than 268,000, and the front line will pass through the Nikolaev and Kharkov regions, and this is without taking into account a possible strike by Belarusian forces from the north. If Lukashenka’s army is connected, the supply of theater of operations on the right side of the Dnieper will drop by 90-95%, moreover, the delivery of fuel and lubricants will become impossible for the civilian population and the harvesting campaign.
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Naturally there was no interest at all in this on FR. While I was shocked at these numbers I made clear that I had been following this Telegram site and they had always been accurate. And of course the follow up Telegram post from another site confirmed and added info to it.
Furthermore since the EU and NATO were about to have their meetings they would naturally get data prior to them and I knew Ursula Von der Crazy had just returned from her visit to Zelensky so the info on their conversation seemed plausible too.
Anyhow, here are two posts from entirely different posters today that pretty much confirm what I had previously posted though their info comes direct from the General Staff of Ukraine.
ZELENSKY IS SUBHUMAN!
Slavyangrad
⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦 - Zelensky was allegedly told in an analytical note that he lost 176,000 soldiers from Feb. 24 to July 11, 2022, submitted by the General Staff of Ukraine.
Eurasia & Multipolarity
From Vladimir Novikov - Leader of the Zaporozhye militia, commander of the special forces ‘Troy’ detachment; So, according to the information received, the number of irretrievable loss of servicemen of the AFU, Border Troops, Ministry of Internal Affairs and National Guard Forces for the period from 24.02 till 11.07.2022 appears 176 000 in the calculations of the General Staff of Ukraine presented in the analytical note to President Zelensky. It includes those killed, wounded without the possibility of further service and those missing without trace.
The report does not include losses of the territorial defence forces (why count them...)
Ukrainian President’s Office / SIPA / Scanpix / LETA
Using open sources, BBC News Russian has identified 3,052 Russian soldiers and officers killed in Ukraine since Moscow began its full-scale invasion on February 24.
The Russian BBC’s tally only includes those soldiers whose full names could be confirmed based on reports from regional leaders and local media. As regional officials and media outlets do not report the names of all the dead, the actual number of Russian military losses is believed to be significantly higher.
To get an idea of how many military fatalities were not included in their statistics, the Russian BBC studied data from 11 regional cemeteries, where Russian soldiers were buried after February 24.
For example, the journalists found that 42 Russian servicemen had been buried in a cemetery near Ulyanovsk since the start of the full-scale invasion. What’s more, half of the deceased were not named publicly — not even on social media. At other cemeteries, the Russian BBC found that the names of 30–100 percent of the recently buried servicemen had not been publicly reported.
Extrapolating from these statistics, the Russian BBC surmises that its list of reported deaths contains “at least 40–60 percent fewer names” than the actual number of servicemen laid to rest in Russia since the start of the full-scale war.
The Russian Defense Ministry has only reported on troop losses twice in the three months since Moscow began its full-scale invasion of Ukraine. The last official toll — 1,351 soldiers killed and 3,825 wounded — was reported on March 25.
Like BBC News Russian, the independent Russian outlet Mediazona has also used open data to calculate Russian troop losses in Ukraine. As of May 20, Mediazona had found 2,622 reported fatalities. Similarly, the Ukrainian Telegram channel Goryushko, which gathers open source reports of Russian soldiers’ deaths, had recorded 3,054 fatalities at the time of this writing.
On May 23, UK Defense Intelligence reported that Russia’s military death toll in Ukraine was likely comparable to the Soviet Union’s losses during its nine-year war in Afghanistan. According to official statistics, more than 15,000 Soviet soldiers were killed or went missing during the Soviet-Afghan War. Ukraine’s estimates put Russia’s death toll even higher: at least 30,500 troops as of May 31.
I read where the US supplied Harpoon missiles have a range of up to 149 miles, I’m sure Russia knows this, they have already lost a couple of ships and probably won’t be coming close enough to get shot at by Ukraine.
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