Rep. Raskin: Pence was a hero on Jan. 6 for resisting ‘pressure campaigns’ and ‘coercive efforts’

Pence could have done much more to defend Trump and speak-out against election fraud, but he had no Constitutional authority to decertify the election. If he had tried to do this, the courts would not have supported him.

Members of Congress from both chambers, in the week before January 6th, filed to RAISE OBJECTIONS to certifying the results of the election as it is their constitutional right to do. Both chambers were scheduled to hear objections and then vote on whether or not to certify the election.

Nothing was done in Congress in respects to objections or anything like that. The time mandated by law to raise objections is when the electoral votes are being counted. And objections to two states' electors were raised.

The members requested a week to 10 days delay on certification to make their objections and vote. There is nothing special about the January 6 date, it is not in the Constitution; January 20th is in the Constitution.

But January 4th is the date mandated by law. You're correct that it isn't in the Constitution so it could have been changed by Congress. But they didn't.

Mr. Short, with Pence in agreement, DENIED Members of Congress their RIGHT TO HEAR OBJECTIONS.

He did not. As I mentioned, objections to the Arizona and Pennsylvania votes were raised. The objections were then debated and voted on in accordance with law.

that would be depending on the angle you see the landscape

It sure is nice to have a Marxist giving Pence a pat on the back.

Truth hurt?

After Pence gets the nomination though- Hitler!

> "Nothing was done in Congress in respects to objections or anything like that. The time mandated by law to raise objections is when the electoral votes are being counted. And objections to two states' electors were raised."

No. The objections had to be written and signed. The objections were written before the counting, not during the counting. They were drafted in the week and days before, and filed with members that had agreed to make objections.

> "But January 4th is the date mandated by law. You're correct that it isn't in the Constitution so it could have been changed by Congress. But they didn't."

You meant January 6. January 6 is the day to convene the process of counting Electors. There is nothing in 3 USC 15 that says counting must be completed the same day. Therefore, it was a reasonable request for state legislators to request a delay of ten days.

88 State Legislators Ask VP Pence to Postpone ‘Opening and Counting of the Electoral Votes for at Least 10 Days’
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/05

Senator Cruz called out precedent:

..... look to history to the precedent of the 1876 election, the Hayes Tilden election where this Congress appointed an electoral commission to examine claims of voter fraud, five house members, five senators, five Supreme Court justices, examined the evidence and rendered a judge judgment.

And what I would urge of this body is that we do the same. That we have pointed electoral commission to conduct a 10-day emergency audit, consider the evidence, and resolve the claims. For those on the democratic aisle who says, say there is no evidence, they’ve been rejected, then you should rest and comfort if that’s the case. An electoral commission would reject those claims.

Other than Senator Cruz, virtually no other floor statements were reported as the Capitol was in and out of lockdown due to a small number of belligerents masquerading as 'protestors' having penetrated the security of chambers and offices, and because the parliamentarians misinterpreted time rules referenced in 3 USC Sec. 15, the votes over objections were rushed causing the scheduled and requested presentations of evidence and testimony to be ignored or disallowed.

> "He did not. As I mentioned, objections to the Arizona and Pennsylvania votes were raised. The objections were then debated and voted on in accordance with law."

He (ult. Pence) most certainly did deny objections to be raised. There were many more objections and states to object to that were awaiting evidence to be transmitted from state legislatures not yet in session, or just convening, or about to convene. In the interim, objections aimed at PA and AZ were to be debated in respective chambers. Importantly, each objection was to be given two hours for debate and there were to be several objections per state. While time to hear these initial objections was running, there were more objections to follow as evidence poured in from state legislatures.

Again, 3 USC 15 mentions nothing about when exactly the process of counting Electors must end, although it is implicit that it be before January 20, a date that is in the Constitution.

If the objections had been successful in rejecting enough Electors, the election of President would have followed the 12th Amendment in which case Trump would win.

Pence flip-flopped after meeting a DC lawyer who twisted the request for "delay" from state legislatures into a specter of illegally "blocking" the certification. Pence should have seen the weakness in this argument, but unlike President Trump, he lacked courage and fortitude to do the right thing. Trump later called him a 'wimp' which is apt. An accommodation to allow time ("delay") for states to provide more evidence is legal as the process of certification had been convened in accordance with law and was ongoing. Such an accommodation would manifest simply by adjourning the Joint Session for a day and reconvening as evidence streamed in for further objections. Nothing in 3 USC 15 forbids this.

January 4, 2021 (Daily Caller)
"Mike Pence Says ‘We’ll Hear The Objections’ About Voter Fraud At Electoral College Count"

January 5, 2021 (The Hill, June 11, 2022)
Pence’s lawyer told him blocking vote certification would likely lead to court loss, ‘standoff’ with Congress

January 6, 2021 (Pence's letter to Congress)
"It is my considered judgment that my oath to support and defend the Constitution constrains me from claiming unilateral authority to determine which electoral votes should be counted and which should not."

The latter January 6 statement was written by a Swampster in Swampspeak. That characterization might seem cartoonish, but it's deadly serious. The Swampster who wrote it was Never-Trumper VP Chief of Staff Marc Short. What Short did was to frame the objections to the WH eviction of Donald Trump as crass politics claiming 'illegal unilateral authority', with no accommodation to those rushing to assemble preliminary state evidence for those members waiting to file further objections. Mr. Short thumbed his nose at the American public, implying they were too stupid to do anything about it.

Pence's January 6 letter was not even called for. It was not required. It was released in the morning before the horned toads and Ray Epps's took the stage to act in their scripted play of 'Insurrection', which incidentally has never been charged against any protestors arrested on frivolous or fraudulent 'criminal bypass' charges.

It doesn't matter that Pelosi's members would be instructed to vote in block against any and all objections, no matter how compelling. Republicans with an ounce of sense to do the right thing should have abstained from voting for certification knowing full well that Pelosi's minions would defeat objections. By voting with the Pelosi bots, Republicans once again showed that special interests are their masters and not the American People and not the States.

The requested accommodation of further objections could have been arranged while still adhering to 3 USC 15. Although the outcome would likely have remained the same due to Pelosi controlling the House, the additional evidence and objections would have been entered on the record providing a central reference going forward. Such a central reference of evidence would have countered the blatant lies that there was no evidence of election rigging and fraud, their "Big Lie" chant would be nonsensical.

By not having evidence of fraud referenced on the Congressional Record, the momentum of state investigations was weakened causing long periods of time to lapse before reappearing:

Texas GOP approves resolution rejecting the results of the 2020 presidential election
https://www.kvue.com/article/news/politics/texas-gop-party-platform-2022

"We believe that the 2020 election violated Article 1 and 2 of the US Constitution, that various secretaries of state illegally circumvented their state legislatures in conducting their elections in multiple ways, including by allowing ballots to be received after November 3, 2020.We believe that substantial election fraud in key metropolitan areas significantly affected the results in five key states in favor of Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. We reject the certified results of the 2020 Presidential election, and we hold that acting President Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. was not legitimately elected by the people of the United States. We strongly urge all Republicans to work to ensure election integrity and to show up to vote in November of 2022, bring your friends and family, volunteer for your local Republicans, and overwhelm any possible fraud."

And now a running out the clock on the law to preserve election materials for 22 months, due early September, will make it more difficult to capture the full history of the attack against America's election system.

The cowardice and weakness of Mike Pence has projected into American society, leaving it in chaos and fear. People are not and will not let it go as the suited self-appointed DC Class wishes. This was a seminal event in American history that can only play out in conflict.

Again, from Pence's January 6 letter to Congress:

"While my role as presiding officer is largely ceremonial, the role of the Congress is much different ....."

No, Mr. Pence, your role was crucial to accommodating fine Americans who made a reasonable and legal request which you had the power and legal authority to grant, namely time to add additional materials to a proceeding . Instead you followed a DC lawyer who worked you over and as a result, you are complicit in the overthrow of a duly elected President. Whether you believe this to be the case or not, you were sitting ready in the getaway car. Had your heart and mind been in the right place, and had you the good sense to do the right thing, the American people would now be behind you. Instead, you have the audacity to think of running to be their President in 2024. Disillusioned doesn't begin to describe you.

There were many more objections and states to object to that were awaiting evidence to be transmitted from state legislatures not yet in session, or just convening, or about to convene.

But none submitted during the counting of the electoral votes by Congress on January 6, which is the only venue for objections to be raised.

Importantly, each objection was to be given two hours for debate and there were to be several objections per state. While time to hear these initial objections was running, there were more objections to follow as evidence poured in from state legislatures.

Just so we're clear, objections came in from individual members of state legislatures or a minority of members of state legislatures. Not a single legislature as a body submitted an objection or submitted an alternate slate of electors, either prior to January 6th or after. So what gives a minority of members authority to speak for the legislature as a whole?

An accommodation to allow time ("delay") for states to provide more evidence is legal as the process of certification had been convened in accordance with law and was ongoing.

Assuming for the sake of argument that this is correct, no state legislature requested the delay and no court ordered any delay. So on what grounds would Pence agree to a delay? If he had the authority to order one? Which he didn't?

Thank you AnthonySoprano for continuing to point out Pence’s duplicity, his disgraceful sellout for book deals and his allowing disgusting Trump haters to occupy his VP Office.

Your efforts have not gone unnoticed. Please carry on.