Posted on 05/27/2022 12:05:38 PM PDT by conservative98
This is a strong reason why some of the teachers should be armed. Responding police are running into chaos, in an unfamiliar environment/situation. It is why police end up shooting the wrong person far more often than concealed-carry folks do - the armed person being attacked is very clear on who the bad guy is from the very first instant.
Texas has a program for this written into their laws. This district chose not to use it.
https://texas.public.law/statutes/tex._educ._code_section_37.0811
Teachers and staff who are willing and able should be trained and armed. They should be allotted several hours of paid training each month to maintain proficiency. Just a few teachers per school could make a difference. Issue them a pistol, and for some have a secured rifle or shotgun available in the classroom. Law enforcement have proven that they will not rescue the kids.
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Oh I hadn’t heard that about the school. I was thinking if only the funeral home people who first saw him heading for the school had called to warn them. Maybe they did call the school in addition to calling 911.
The kids and teacher were shot when the boy first entered the building. From what I can tell by the time most of the police arrived, he had stopped shooting and had barricaded himself in a room of victims.
The cops didn’t bust in and shoot him finally until he fired on a child that had survived hidden until he called out for help.
Did the cops screw up, yes, even they said so. But again you are 2nd guessing after the fact. The cops had no way of knowing he had already shot everyone in that room. Maybe he was holding most of them hostage and they risked him shooting more of them if they burst in. They had no way of knowing beforehand he had already shot everyone in there that he thought was alive.
I don’t know, all I know is people are fallible, and it was a situation in flux.
At the very minimum, they had to assume there were wounded children inside who desperately needed help or were hiding from the shooter, which was true. We know several children survived after being shot by “playing dead”, and another was shot when they told him to “yell if you need help”. How many others died while the police waited, we don’t yet know.
Yes, we are all “second guessing”. The problem is that the person who should have taken decisive action second guessed himself, and failed to act. I have a friend who is a former SRO and was involved in a campus shooting. Every time this happens, he can’t believe the cops still screw this up. They have trained Pre-Planned Responses for these situations to preclude poor decisions. Then they fail to follow those PPRs under stress.
Given that some kids were STILL CALLING 911 FROM THE CLASSROOM puts paid to that meme. The cops screwed up totally. The only worse action is the dumbass teacher who propped the door open. Inexcusable in both cases.
I recall all of the windows around and in the doors when I went to school had chicken-wire in the glass. Simple, and much harder to break out.
Given that some kids were STILL CALLING 911 FROM THE CLASSROOM puts paid to that meme.
Given that some kids were STILL CALLING 911 FROM THE CLASSROOM puts paid to that meme.
Irrelevant...if the communication between the cops and 911 operator is that bad then there is another part of the system that is badly broken and needs fixing.
If those police had Any personal honor their resignation papers would be on the mayor’s desk along with the badges and guns.
Lest we forget - during that time, children were calling parents and even 911 and giving blow-by-blow accounts of the ongoing murder...
Irrelevant...if the communication between the cops and 911 operator is that bad then there is another part of the system that is badly broken and needs fixing.
Starting at the beginning of this line of argument was the assertion that the police on the scene had to know something because the children were calling someone else, which is not by itself a valid assertion.
Sorry. I disagree. The cops f*****d up at all levels, including 911.
But THE most egregious f****p was the stupidity of the teacher who LEFT THE DAMNED DOOR OPEN. And yet, the identity of THAT person is THE ONE THING that NOBODY is willing to state. His/her name should live in infamy as long as that town exists.
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