Posted on 05/19/2022 7:42:30 AM PDT by Kaslin
One aspect of student loan forgiveness always puzzles me.
And that is, what about students taking out loans now, to attend college. Is there a presumption that loans given today and in the future will also be forgiven? And if so, does this whole thing morph into a system where nobody ever pays to go to college ever again? But then wouldn’t that translate into college just being an adjunct of K-12 education, in which taxpayers pay for college education directly, even at private universities?
Only one $Trillion Joe? That will hardly put a dent in the student debt. Not likely to buy you many votes. You should go for $100,000 and 10 $trillion. We can afford it - paper is cheap.
How ridiculously unfair is it to make low income or middle class pay for the student debt of someone earning over $100,000 per year, two and three times their income? What happened to high earners paying their fair share? /s
10^9 dollars is about 18 cu. yds of gold...
If the colleges feel this is important, they can line up their own group of lenders as Hillsdale College does.
If the states feel it important, then they can set up their own bank as the state of North Dakota does.
There is no need to reinvent the wheel, but there is a need to get Fedzilla out of this business completely and permanently.
Government at any level, especially federal, should not be in the student loan business. Government at any level should not be involved in postsecondary education.
State legislatures have for decades reduced the amount of subsidies to public universities, forcing universities to raise tuition to fully cover costs.
The total cost of a four-year degree has not gone up any faster than overall inflation for the past 20 years, but the percentage of tuition costs covered by state subsidies has steadily decreased.
When I first went to college in 1981, in-state tuition costs at my public university were around $35/hr, or $1,050 per academic year, and a summer job could easily cover the costs.
Now those tuition costs are over $500/hr, or around $15,000 per academic year.
And this is just tuition. It doesn't address room and board , textbooks, or other fees. When you factor those costs, it's closer to $30,000/academic year. There isn't a summer job around that pays $30,000 in one summer.
Maybe these students should study economics. Biden will print this money and it will push inflation rate to 15%. And corresponding loan interest rates past 10%. This hidden tax will have a huge impact those that don’t have marketable college degrees, minimum wage earners, and fixed income retirees.
“There isn’t a summer job around that pays $30,000 in one summer.”
There are some, but you might end up attending Graybar U., and maybe not graduating in four years, either.
Honestly,
Education expense should be tax deductible. Not forgiven. You should be able to deduct payments up to 25K per year.
That gives an incentive for people to have jobs, make payments, and allows young people to start a family. It’s not loan forgiveness, but it certainly respects that it’s a business expense and using it like depreciating an item.
That’s what I think would be best.
I think that’s a good idea.
Also restrict the program to degrees\training which have a higher rate of return in taxes - in short no hobby degrees!
You get a 1099-C in the amount of your forgiveness which must be treated like income on your next Federal Income Tax filing. So, whatever you make that year, add the forgiveness amount and that is your reportable income.
Without fixing the cause, forgiving debt is simply stupid.
But, fixing the “cause” will mean the destruction of a lot of private colleges. It will push the “attending” college back to the “elites”.
The thing is…”free” college is not what these kids want. They want the Hollywood college experience. They don’t really care about filling their brains.
These are no easy solutions to this problem.
Yes, $30K/year is about right. I have 4 kids and saved up in their 529s from birth. I’ve told them in-state tuition only, 4 years only, no grad school.
In CA that means Cal State or UC at between $7K-$15K tuition and $15K/year room and board etc. Times four years times four kids is a half million dollars. And that’s PUBLIC, in state college costs. . .
No loans for my kids though as their 529s since 1996 when I started them have done well.
There is a sort of quid pro quo between Democrats and educational establishment to help each other at the expense of tax payers and parents.
Democrats guarantee ever bigger flow of money to educational institutions and educational institutions in turn do the bidding to implement democrat agenda and ideology.
Inflation in Tuition costs has been astronomical and it has been underwritten by democrats via generous student loan programs that prevent any kind of cost reforms within educational institutions. Democrats are throwing money at them and turning them into their partisan ideological assets. And they make parents and students and now tax payers to foot the bill.
The problem is that government at ANY level is involved in “higher education”. Educating your kid is your responsibility. You do the math and it’s worth it to you then YOU find a way to pay for it.
Laying this off on the state legislature is a cheap cop out.
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Nope, not a cheap out, just an explanation of why “back in my day I could work two jobs and pay for college” isn’t true anymore.
I’m paying about 14k per year out of pocket for my daughter to go to Northern AZ Uni. Most of that is just dorm/food/and other expenses. She’s smart, so always eligible for the school’s largest scholarship.
Good thing, cause I didn’t save a dime for her schooling. Just couldn’t do it. Now, I’m doing much better. Also, no car payments, and a manageable mortgage helps a lot.
The thought that some loans are going to potentially be forgiven, makes me wonder who though up this BS. It’s so freakin unfair to us, and further to every smart kid that skipped college for fear of going into big debt. To think, now they get to work for the person who borrowed the money and didn’t pay it back. It’s infuriating.
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