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Did a Quickly Deleted Essay in Russian Media Explain What Vladimir Putin Wants Russia to Gain From the Ukraine Invasion?
Red State ^ | 2/27/22 | Strieff

Posted on 02/28/2022 8:20:47 AM PST by datura

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This article fits in exactly with what my Russian friends have told me.
1 posted on 02/28/2022 8:20:47 AM PST by datura
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To: datura

Bkmrk


2 posted on 02/28/2022 8:21:57 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Miss you Rush!)
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To: datura
What Putin wants?

Who are the immediate players behind Putin in Russia?

What do they want?
3 posted on 02/28/2022 8:26:02 AM PST by indthkr
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To: datura

Reconquista.


4 posted on 02/28/2022 8:26:15 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: datura
One of the questions asked over and over about Putin’s callous invasion of an inoffensive neighbor,...

Stopped reading right there.

Fortunately it was the first sentence.

5 posted on 02/28/2022 8:26:54 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Реконкиста


6 posted on 02/28/2022 8:27:00 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: datura

The article says the two sides are “still shooting at each other”, it just makes the leap to assuming Russia will prevail.


7 posted on 02/28/2022 8:28:07 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself.)
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To: datura

So Putin sees himself not as an imperialist, but as the Abe Lincoln of greater Russia.


8 posted on 02/28/2022 8:28:50 AM PST by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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“Who are the immediate players behind Putin in Russia?

What do they want?”

No no, who’s giving the “immediate players” THEIR orders?

If we are going imagine secret boogie men behind every tree there’s no end to it.


9 posted on 02/28/2022 8:30:27 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself.)
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To: datura
an invasion that is mysteriously rationalized by an amazing number of people on the right

I keep seeing references to Putin's supposed support from the right, but I haven't actually seen people on the right supporting Putin's move into Ukraine. What's going on here?

10 posted on 02/28/2022 8:31:32 AM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: rightwingcrazy

Yes - and Putin evidently believes that the reintegration into the new Soviet Union somehow “frees” the people of Ukraine. No, it only soothes the pain felt by the Russian elites about losing Ukraine.


11 posted on 02/28/2022 8:31:46 AM PST by datura (Eventually, the Lord and the Truth will win.)
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The following is just my opinion as well as a hunch of mine. Russia and the US have always been on opposite sides of the spectrum and needless to say an outright war to settle any scores is obviously not an option. I further believe hat Putin has never warmed up to the idea to “The New World Order” or the idea of a “World Government” Some people who have never heard about it think that’s crazy, but that’s been in the works for decades and finally those people behind the scenes are going full bore and giving it all the push they can with Klaus Schwab as one of the main leaders, along with many leaders in industry, as well as technology following right behind, of course one of them being Bill Gates, as all those big wigs stand to gain should this scheme become reality, I hope for your as well as my sake it never will.

The push for this so called “New World Order” could also be seen, at least by some careful observers; how many governments world wide almost acted in “Unisom” and fell in line one by one as if all were singing the same song, originating from the same songbook when it came to responding to this Chinese created virus. Following up with draconian restrictions, new rules, forfeiture of civil rights as well as curtailing freedom etc. No doubt, some of you may have gotten a taste when they saw what crap Justin Trudeau tried to inflict upon his constituencies and how ruthless he and his cohorts went about to enforce it. That’s what dictatorship is all about.

In other words it was more or less just what you may call a “Dry run” for “The Powers to be” to find out how the public would respond and then tailor any further actions accordingly. Of course Putin had a mind of his own and did not fall for this “Crap”, call it scheme and for this reason they decided to punish him as he was the person who would NOT CONFORM TO THEIR WISHES. And the people of the Ukraine are being used as poor pawns to be used in this power struggle. I may be wrong, as I have been many times before, but in this case I don’t think so.


12 posted on 02/28/2022 8:31:47 AM PST by saintgermaine (Saintgermain the time traveler)
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To: datura

Very interesting!


13 posted on 02/28/2022 8:33:08 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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Hitler took over Austria because he believed it to be part of Germany same with Czechoslovakia the following year. When will it end for Putin?


14 posted on 02/28/2022 8:34:07 AM PST by ProudDeplorable (Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty. ~ Ronald Reagan)
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To: rightwingcrazy

Indeed. The end goal of this invasion is the creation of the NewSSR.

Uniting Ukraine, Belarus, Russia, and perhaps some of the Stans into a new country under Putin’s control.


15 posted on 02/28/2022 8:34:12 AM PST by Renfrew
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

bkmrk


16 posted on 02/28/2022 8:34:41 AM PST by KSCITYBOY (The media is corrupt)
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To: indthkr

Good question. Has their been a tacit NWO agreement with Putin? Faux media outrage is cover…


17 posted on 02/28/2022 8:35:40 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: datura
Back in my philosophy days, a read a lot of books by Nikolai Berdyaev, a Marxist in his youth who converted to Orthodoxy. After the Revolution, he fled to France where he spent the rest of his days. He claimed that even in the days of the Soviet Union, Russia was motivated by a kind of messianic vision of itself as the light of the world.

After the fall of the Soviet Union (long after Berdyaev's death), there has been a revival of Orthodoxy, and Putin has used this to fuel his own ambitions for a restoration of Russian influence. The ongoing moral decline of the West (from an Orthodox perspective), coupled with the increasing influence of secular globalism, has enabled him to get popular support that might have been lacking due to his personal thuggery and wealth. But the invasion of the Ukraine may have been a clumsy and premature effort, and may drastically weaken his support.
18 posted on 02/28/2022 8:36:15 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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It also follows very closely quips from Putin in the past ten years. If so, whatever the “discussions” lead to, the result in Putin’s mind will be Ukraine in my fold. The blather of buffer state was BS, Ukraine is not the only area where Putin abuts NATO.

And China views Taiwan (formosa) as a breakaway province. Hum.


19 posted on 02/28/2022 8:36:26 AM PST by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media )
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To: SaxxonWoods

Well, one thing is for SURE, and that is a ONE WORLD order...the Bible is clear on its prophecy about the future and so we have to believe that we are in the end times or atleast the start of the end times.


20 posted on 02/28/2022 8:36:49 AM PST by princess leah
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