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ATF raids Amish farmer, seizes guns
Bearing Arms ^ | Jan 26, 2022 1:30 PM ET | Cam Edwards

Posted on 01/26/2022 12:16:16 PM PST by Sopater

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To: Sopater

They have been in the gun business over 200 years.

Lancaster made rifles were even given, by the US Government, to the Cheyenne at the Washita, for them to hunt buffalo. Only they did not hunt buffalo. They went on killing raids of settlers, in Kansas resulting in Custer’s authorized raid on their village in 1868.


21 posted on 01/26/2022 12:54:28 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (BACK IN FACEBOOK JAIL, Another 30 days. On GAB now. Some real cranks there!)
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To: cgbg

I wish the journalistic integrity checkers at CNN well.

If they did their job CNN would have nothing left to publish.


22 posted on 01/26/2022 12:55:25 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

553? Hit too many keys. It should be 53 years when Johnson signed the 1968 Gun Control act into Law.


24 posted on 01/26/2022 12:56:15 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (BACK IN FACEBOOK JAIL, Another 30 days. On GAB now. Some real cranks there!)
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To: Yo-Yo

I am all for the right to private sales without paperwork; however, if he was selling a lot of guns to various people for profit, he should have got an FFL to deal.


25 posted on 01/26/2022 12:56:27 PM PST by MikeSteelBe (The South will be in the right in the next war of Northern aggression.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

One thing missing from the story is whether any ATF person had ever suggested that he get licensed. A rule of thumb over the years was 50 sales. But if this raid came out of the blue he’s lucky they didn’t “Kenyon Ballew” him. About 1971, in their first door buster, the ATF shot Ballew in the head on the say-so of a 14 year old kid who claimed Ballew had a weapons stash. All he had was an 1847 repro cap and ball pistol!


26 posted on 01/26/2022 1:02:25 PM PST by OldWarBaby
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To: zeugma

Polluting the Grand Canyon and the Colorado River will not help anyone. Take them to the East River in New York. It wont be noticed


27 posted on 01/26/2022 1:13:05 PM PST by dirtymac ( Now Is The Time For All Good Men To ComeTo The Aid Of Their Country! NOW)
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To: MikeSteelBe
he was selling a lot of guns to various people for profit, he should have got an FFL to deal.

How do you do that without a photo ID?

And how do you sell to customers that do not have a photo ID for religious reasons?

28 posted on 01/26/2022 1:21:49 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: Sopater

This makes me hate the jack-booted ATF even more: attacking a bunch of peaceful Christian farmers. We have GOT to get rid of that Federal agency.


29 posted on 01/26/2022 1:28:29 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (But what do I know? I'm just a backwoods engineer.)
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To: MikeSteelBe

NO. That is NOT what 18 U.S. Code §922 says. The ATF is a bunch of jack-booted Federal thugs, out of control, no different than any gang. What part of “shall not be infringed” are you unclear about?


30 posted on 01/26/2022 1:30:54 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (But what do I know? I'm just a backwoods engineer.)
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To: Sopater

It is clear to me that this is a clear case of his 2nd Amendment being violated by the law requiring him to show an ID, or to have a FFL to sell said firearms.


31 posted on 01/26/2022 1:31:23 PM PST by stockpirate (Rebellion to tyranny is obedience to God., Where Justice Ends Tyranny Begins.)
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To: Sopater

Thank God for the ATF.


32 posted on 01/26/2022 1:34:36 PM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Strange that a man with his wealth would have to resort to prostitution.)
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To: zeugma

That would be an excellent start.


33 posted on 01/26/2022 1:36:16 PM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: N. Theknow

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Amish drive-by shooting.

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34 posted on 01/26/2022 1:39:09 PM PST by thinden
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To: PGR88

They don’t pay into social security, I’m not sure about medicare tax but I think they don’t pay that as well. They do pay state, federal and their property taxes and collect sales taxes on any stuff they sell to the public. They are hardly tax cheats. What they barter between themselves is another issue but I don’t want any tax guys getting nosy trying to find out! There are lots of “in kind services” they might trade between themselves that could be considered taxable if properly valued, but if no talky and no paper worky...then no records to audit.


35 posted on 01/26/2022 1:45:30 PM PST by mdmathis6 (Democrat Biden...we are sore...we don't want no Ukraine war!)
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To: Sopater

Part of the right wing threat.


36 posted on 01/26/2022 1:46:19 PM PST by fruser1
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To: MercyFlush
" Odd the ATF didn’t kill all the cows. "

That's utterly impossible.

37 posted on 01/26/2022 1:51:07 PM PST by crazy scenario (The burden of Damascus is next!)
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To: MikeSteelBe

Apparently, “a lot of guns” isn’t defined.


38 posted on 01/26/2022 2:09:58 PM PST by gloryblaze
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To: OldWarBaby

The LBJ “judge” on that one was a total government stooge.


39 posted on 01/26/2022 2:10:44 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Sopater

They should just start lending them to ppl, like the library does. Return them after a year and get another one. Easy peasy.


40 posted on 01/26/2022 2:15:46 PM PST by Prince of Space ( Let’s go, Brandon! )
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