Posted on 01/04/2022 11:17:16 AM PST by LibertyWoman
How many healthy 46 year olds drop dead?
I appreciate your point of view. I also appreciate that you do not imply un-vaxxed are idiots or worse.
It is a PERSONAL decision. I honestly don’t care if others get jabbed or don’t. My husband and other close family members are vaxxed. My decision to not get the vax is multi-layered and I believe well-thought out, for me and how my life happens to be at this point in time.
(Hard for me to believe that in this United States anyone would think a forced vaccine is ok, especially for a virus that is easily survivable for most that get infected.)
Yes ... And a significant number in the whole world now believing that forced is good (worldwide I mean)
I’ve probably had it 3x what with my exposure to the public all last year (didn’t hit until earlier this year)
C, D3, Zinc and prayer to Almighty God.
I don’t know.
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(Or it made you worse)
Exactly
The DATA says no such thing.
That is because there is no DATA, only anecdotes, including yours.
The anecdotes are wildly contradictory. They may all be accurate, but we are dealing with something that has extremely large variation in the outcomes. And there is malicious intention and biased selection behind the presentation of many anecdotes.
The only institutions with access to DATA and incentives for accurate, unbiased DATA are the life and health insurance companies. They haven't been publicizing their findings until very recently. What they have been muttering about in the actuarial trade publications for the last two years looks extremely bad and does not support the vaccination narrative at all.
What a significant insurance company has just publicly said about the "all-cause" mortality statistics for the last year (up 50%+ in the 18-60 age group) strongly suggests (12-sigma) that we have just doomed two thirds of this country to early death. From the mRNA treatments. It will show up as a huge increase in cardiac problems, strokes, embolisms, and miscarriages for age groups where these never used to occur with any frequency.
These are already showing up in "the DATA".
The data from those physicians like Jim Noble and myself and the others who have and treat this everyday
The facts are these, take them, leave them, call them propaganda, but it does not change what we are seeing in our areas.
1. When delta went through, there were no vaccinated patients in any of our hospitals who progressed to critical illness. Not one
2. There were sporadic vaccinated cases who ended up on the floor in the hospital for a day or two, but did fine and were discharged no worse for the wear.
3. There is no question that the vaccine does not prevent disease, however there is plenty of evidence that it did reduce transmission (albeit not eliminate it) with alpha and delta waves. Anyone who says any different is not telling the truth
4. There is ample evidence that it prevented disease in a large part of the cohort, but was not 100% effective — and it was noted at first that the vaccine was 95% effective at stopping disease and transmission, which in retrospect is probably high. But to the highest degree of evidence, vaccinated people simply did not die from SARS - CoVI - 2 (delta)
5. Omicron is currrently the most common variant across the world.
6. Omicron has been ripping around the US for at least 6 weeks, but there is NO demonstrable increase in hospitalization nor deaths. This lends credence to the fact that omicron likely is a pandemic ender as it has evolved into a brief, self limited disease that is highly transmissible. Currently there are no reports of deaths in the US secondary to omicron or its effects on a patients comorbidities
7. In my hospital, we have seen a lot of people admitted for non-pandemic illness, and due to needing a procedure were tested and found to be (+) although asymptomatic. Thus, there is reconsideration that we should NOT test those who are with no symptoms.
8. It is clear that people who had alpha and delta died OF covid due to its interactions with their own pathologies and comorbidities (increase in death rate as noted by actuarial analysis in 2021 over what would be normal)
9. The narrative of being sick and having an incidental finding of CoVID seems to be true with omicron.
10. Despite vaccination status, omicron is clearly breaking thought. But this is likely because it is not longer an LRI, but an URI. One would except such a shift in function would allow infection
11. Early studies show that omicron produces robust antibodies to previous strains. Due to its R0 and lack of serious disease, this is what has caused South Africa to end all covid restrictions now that 80% of their population as apparently tested (+) for CoVID.
12. Previous corona infections seems to have conferred partial immunity on CoVID 19 — as such, study from Japan today seems to point out that omicron will at least give partial immunity to future strains (CoVID as a species retains very much so distinct structure as opposed to other viruses that cannot mutate and still be of corona genus)
This is offered without opinion or political gamesmanship. I am absolutely in agreement that Jim Noble is correct as it is exactly what I am seeing as it is exactly what ICU and hospital based physicians have seen all throughout.
I remain optimistic that what we are seeing with omicron is exactly what we have seen with other pandemics, and that we an rely on the laws of epidemiology instead of the politics of the moment to safely get through this. I agree with fighting the fight against mandatory vaccination — that is just not justified. People should be able to make a reasonable choice based on the best information by analyzing both the info and the strength of the data. Only then an informed decision can be made.
You cannot compare other countries to the US.
Look at every state stat in the US, the unvacinated are the ones dying.
Is Desantis a liar?
Desantis also said over 60% of the monoclonal antibodies in Miami-Dade county were going to vaccinated people.
Is Desantis a liar?
You also can’t compare areas within the US. Desantis aggressively used antibody treatments to save both vaccinated and unvaccinated from dying.
No, he is not willing to publish patient information, which in fact would be a HIPAA violation. I can confirm independently what Jim has said is exactly what I am seeing is exactly what our network of colleagues across the nation are seeing.
Whether you choose to believe it or not is entirely on you — but it does not make what he has said to be false.
Strange for the communications leader at Vancouver Coastal Health to tweet βlike all who are fully vaccinated, Iβm doing fineβ when close to 1,000 double vaccinated people in B.C. have been hospitalized and more than a hundred have died.
Some people are still vulnerable.β Justin McElroy (@j_mcelroy) January 1, 2022
You don't seem to understand: Being anti-mandate causes you to die!
/mordant sarcasm
Regards,
The DATA says that most people with COVID who are critically ill or who die are unvaccinated. This is certainly true in my practice
US data, which has been demonstrated over and over to be very inaccurate.
Many European countries have reported the opposite. Germany and England have reported that over 90% of patients hospitalized have had the jab.
How do you explain the huge increase in death claims reported by the insurance companies? One week’s spike is not significant. but two quarters (six month’s) means something major is taking place and it can not be explained by anything other than the jab. I say that because the insane pressure over the jab is the only significant health event to take place in the US in the last two years.
Occam’s Razor is not always the way to truth, but is is so often that it is the first place to start.
As much as I want to believe this Iβm unvaccinated and my vaccinated boyfriend and sister in law both had worse symptoms than me. I havenβt seen the vaccine work for anyone I know. A family friend of mine even died from covid while fully vaccinated. https://t.co/FQDRxLucAkβ ππππππππ£ β (@pay10_gc) January 2, 2022
Blood clot? Yikes π³
REPORT: 75 European Fully Vaccinated Athletes Have Died or Became Seriously Ill From βSuddenβ Heart Attacks In the Past 5 Months https://t.co/DQAanjJSiwβ dylsky (@dylsky1) January 2, 2022
Tell that to my friend who was fully vaccinated and DIED after catching COVID from someone else who was fully vaccinated.β Jeremy Paulin (@nhwynter) January 4, 2022
It should be my choice ! I have several friends & Family members that are fully vaccinated and are sick with Covid . Two of them are in the hospital on vents and one that died Saturday at 40 years old ! All fully vaccinated.β Lanell B. (@lanell_tammy) January 4, 2022
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