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Gladys Berejiklian has been knifed by unelected lawyers and now the country has lost its ONLY decent state premier at the worst possible time, argues NIC WHITE - and for what? (Australia)
Daily Mail (Australia/UK) ^ | 1st October 2021 | Nic White

Posted on 10/01/2021 5:34:15 PM PDT by naturalman1975

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To: livius
Well, what we see of what’s happening to your fellow citizens sure doesn’t look good. And this is not from “conservative sources,” but from citizen videos. How can you defend her?

A few reasons.

The first is, most of those videos you are seeing are probably coming from Victoria. As the Premier of New South Wales, she has absolutely no power or influence over what happens in Victoria. They are completely different states.

Secondly, while I don't like what she's done since June this year, up until that point, she was doing a good job. And she only changed then because of immense and specific pressures. I think she should have resisted them better, but I don't believe that the last few months wipes out four years of service as Premier, and over a year of being the only state leader to fairly consistently resisting locking down her state when pretty much everybody was telling her to.

21 posted on 10/01/2021 6:13:58 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975
naturalman1975 - you can be so open-minded that your brain falls out. Just saying.


22 posted on 10/01/2021 6:16:45 PM PDT by WMarshal ("Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither.")
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To: naturalman1975

Is Berejiklian considered a conservative down there? I’d sure hate to meet an authoritarian.


23 posted on 10/01/2021 6:18:48 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: ocrp1982
My question is, where is the organized nationwide outrage toward the Fascist Control Freaks in that country?

Where's the organised nationwide outrage in America towards the fact that your last election was stolen and you have an illegitimate President.

(Note - I make no personal judgement to whether or not that is true - but I'm constantly seeing people here saying it is).

There is resistance to what is going on in Australia. I'm part of it. But, yes, for the most part, it's not fighting in the streets. Why?

Because that isn't the most effective way of changing things, here.

I'm doing everything I can to make sure Daniel Andrews and his Labor Party doesn't win the next state election, just over a year from now. Frankly, I do regard that as the single most important thing in terms of restoring long term liberty in this state. I don't know if we'll succeed. I do know that violence in the street isn't more likely to make that happen. If anything, it's likely to have the opposite effect.

24 posted on 10/01/2021 6:20:26 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Nextrush
Sky in Australia has the most conservatives of any media that I know of, including in the USA. Many have been used by the conservative news media in the US for comments and interviews.

These include the excellent Andrew Bolt, Alan Jones,Paul Murray (friend of Trump), Cory Bernardi, Peta Credlin (was Abbott's chief of staff), Rowan Dean,Shari Markson (who's just released the excellent, “What Really Happened in Wuhan” ( No American media person has come close to writing a book like this that exposes China, she included interviews that she had with Trump”),Rita Panahi (fantastic), James Morrow, Daisy Cousens (one of the best young women conservatives in the world), among others. They have many conservative guests and one of the finest group of conservatives you will find on any media in the world.

25 posted on 10/01/2021 6:24:28 PM PDT by Aussiebabe
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To: naturalman1975

Good point in post number nine. I was not aware of some of those things.


26 posted on 10/01/2021 6:25:29 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: DesertRhino
Is Berejiklian considered a conservative down there?

Sort of. She's from the Liberal Party, which is our major conservative party - and compared to Labor, definitely conservative.

But she's from the moderate wing of the party - so it's probably more accurate to call her a centrist that a true conservative - the Liberal Party is a pretty broad party.

Calling her an authoritarian... I honestly think that's unfair. Until June this year she was just about the only state Premier who wasn't going hard core authoritarian (maybe Peter Gutwein in Tasmania as well, but COVID numbers in Tasmania have been so low, he's never really been tested - Berejiklian was constantly under pressure to change). She only gave in when NSW had the worst COVID outbreak in the country and started infecting other states. And even then, she's been trying to get her state back to normal far faster than anybody else - NSW is already due for large relaxations of restrictions in just over a week and back to near normal in November.

27 posted on 10/01/2021 6:26:36 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Bingo!


28 posted on 10/01/2021 6:26:46 PM PDT by Aussiebabe
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To: naturalman1975
The typical Aussie may,or may not,understand that the US response to the Wuhan Flu has been uneven...varying from state to state. Early on it was actually about Trump,the election and mail in balloting...meaning that states with Rat,or RINO,Governors shut down while states with Governors who didn't hate him didn't. The problem is that most of our largest states,the ones most important to the nation's economy,have Rat,or RINO,Governors.

I,personally,would love to see a detailed,meticulous,and honest,appraisal/analysis of how successfully,or unsuccessfully,various "First World" nations have handled the virus. I'd say it should come from Harvard Medical School,or Hopkins,or Mayo Clinic but when it comes to politics I don't associate honesty with any of them. I'd particularly like to see how Sweden has fared...given their early decision not to lock down like many other countries did.

But my hunch is that more than a few politicians in those countries (Newsome in California,the Premier of Victoria,among others) would very much *not* want to see such an analysis published...for obvious reasons.

29 posted on 10/01/2021 6:27:22 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Balloting)
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To: WMarshal

I am open minded. But my brains are still firmly in place.

I’m a conservative but I won’t swallow the Kool-Aid just because it has a label that says ‘conservative’.

I speak the truth as I see it.

Am I always right? No. But my batting average is pretty good.


30 posted on 10/01/2021 6:29:27 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Hopefully the jail sentence ends for the people of NSW and we’ll see if the new Premier’s approach to NOT having the police beat the shit out of old ladies works better.

It might, it might not. Time will tell.


31 posted on 10/01/2021 6:31:50 PM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: naturalman1975

funny how the pollies (and MSM) waited until the majority fell in line and got vaccinated before mentioning the 3rd...4th, 5th shots etc:

1 Oct: Perth Now: National cabinet working on a plan for third Covid shots by the end of 2021
by Catie McLeod. NCA NewsWire
Australia’s state and territory leaders are working with the commonwealth government on a plan to begin administering booster coronavirus vaccines by the end of the year.
Following a national cabinet meeting on Friday, Prime Minister Scott Morrison said “significant planning” was underway to commence a third shot program late in 2021...

Most people are considered fully inoculated against Covid-19 if they have had two shots of any of the vaccines available in Australia, but booster shots are likely to be required in the future as this immunity wanes.
It isn’t entirely clear yet when people will need a top-up vaccine, though federal Health Minister Greg Hunt has said “in all likelihood” they will become like regular seasonal flu jabs for most Australians...
https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/national-cabinet-working-on-a-plan-for-third-covid-shots-by-the-end-of-2021-c-4123975


32 posted on 10/01/2021 6:36:04 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: naturalman1975

As an aside, are the protests in Melbourne still mainly by construction workers? I believe your press calls them tradies.


33 posted on 10/01/2021 6:36:04 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Florida: America's new free zone.)
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To: naturalman1975

I hope you succeed in politically toppling Andrews, but the failure to recall Gavin Newsom (leftist governor of our state of California), as well as the re-election of Trudeau as Canadian PM, does not bode well for liberty in English-speaking countries.


34 posted on 10/01/2021 6:38:59 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Florida: America's new free zone.)
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To: naturalman1975

Where? Really? How many organized Audits of that election are being actively pursued in each of those states? The answer, all of them.
Pro-Trump / Pro-Freedom / Pro-Constitution rallies at many levels are happening in many states. Some are small events. Some, as in the Trumptilla Boat parades are massive.
Retirement Communities feature Golf Cart parades with many hundreds of carts that last for hours.
Memorial Day, Veterans Day, 4th of July Celebrations result in many 10’s of thousands attending flying the Don’t Tread on Me flag. The American Flag. And, Pro-Trump flags.
The opposition here is strong and loud.
Trump Rally’s even after he was defrauded out of re-election easily have many 10’s of Thousands show up and viewership online and on the few broadcast media that show them are in the millions.
Where is the equivalent to all this in Australia?


35 posted on 10/01/2021 6:39:20 PM PDT by ocrp1982 (Biblicly)
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To: naturalman1975

“Where’s the organised nationwide outrage in America towards the fact that your last election was stolen and you have an illegitimate President.”

Rotting away in DC right now. We’ve been defeated, and it’s only a matter of time before they get the courts and can finish off this country for good. That’s why a lot of us looked to other countries, and were so disappointed in what we’ve seen in Australia.


36 posted on 10/01/2021 6:39:30 PM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: naturalman1975

Surrendering to propaganda is never a virtue. My employer has been harassing everyone with relentless indoctrination training, propaganda, and vaccinate or be fired madness which is all driven be the leftists. Personal direct experience so I know for a fact that corporate media’s “news” and content are just lies, omissions, and gaslighting.

You know that you are lying.


37 posted on 10/01/2021 6:40:14 PM PDT by WMarshal ("Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither.")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
As an aside, are the protests in Melbourne still mainly by construction workers? I believe your press calls them tradies.

Strictly speaking, there's a bit of a difference between tradies and construction workers - a lot of construction workers are tradies, but not all tradies are construction workers :).

Honestly, I'm not sure who the protesters are right now. Yes, it started out with construction workers but a lot of others got involved and now it seems to be made up of all sorts of people with disagreements with the government some of which aren't compatible. My feeling is that construction workers only represent a small proportion at this point, but I haven't checked.

And construction workers are allowed to go back to work on Tuesday, the two week suspension of work being over (unless the Premier changes his mind) - the ones who object to mandatory vaccinations will still have a beef at that point, but a lot of the protesting was about the fact they weren't allowed to work and that's not going to be the case anymore.

38 posted on 10/01/2021 6:40:16 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: WMarshal

No, I’m not the one who is lying.


39 posted on 10/01/2021 6:40:48 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

We’re not a republic anymore.

Neither is Australia.


40 posted on 10/01/2021 6:42:22 PM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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