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Gov. Greg Abbott slams Biden administration over vaccine mandate for employers
KXAN ^ | 9/9/21 | Joshua Fechter

Posted on 09/09/2021 5:44:41 PM PDT by Bearshouse

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To: Jane Long

Not so great, because I was wrong, there were but not the kind of vaccines we refer to today.


61 posted on 09/09/2021 6:49:27 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: Bearshouse

The Tech Industry is always in boom bust cycles much like the oil industry is. When the sales numbers drop off or the number of wells that need drilling falls the pink slips come out sorry your labors are not needed at the current time who stays and who goes is always up to the employer they will keep their best and most loyal employees first when the bust comes. On a smaller scale with home builders and contractors if they even have real employees not just 1099 independent contractors it’s easy to “right size” in Texas. I personally don’t use any other than 1099 guys directly or subcontractors who I can let go when a given contract job is done.


62 posted on 09/09/2021 6:49:46 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: Jane Long

Abbott is rising to the occasion. If he keeps it up I might vote for him again.


63 posted on 09/09/2021 6:50:19 PM PDT by tatown
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To: Bearshouse

Vaccine mandates - bump for later....


64 posted on 09/09/2021 6:51:50 PM PDT by indthkr
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To: knarf

Good graphic... By the way has anyone had a reason why our flu deaths dropped from 60,000+ in 2017 - 2018 season to next to nothing now? Is everything just being called Covid now?


65 posted on 09/09/2021 6:52:15 PM PDT by Bearshouse (Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem. *Thomas Jefferson)
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To: NotQuiteCricket

Spot on. The biggest accomplishment of the powers that be was convincing the public that a person without symptoms was “sick”. We used to call these people “well”.


66 posted on 09/09/2021 6:53:12 PM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing American youth's future on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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To: Bearshouse

Well.....I didn’t read it (initially) as great news....it freaked the heck out me seeing/reading that there is even a CONSIDERATION, or POSSIBILITY that ANY local government would mandate these risky shots for their CITIZENS.

The fact that Abbott is preparing for this...to me, is telling.

Glad he’s ahead of it, but....freaky, nonetheless.

That’s how I read it, anyhow. Maybe I’m overthinking it.

Also....wonderful for Abbott in blocking mask and shot mandates, but...wish he’d also block any testing mandates, as well. These tests are risky, too, especially for kids.


67 posted on 09/09/2021 6:54:51 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation.)
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To: Jane Long

Texas better hurry up since cities like Austin do have the power under Jacobson vs Mass. We don’t need a hodgepodge Abbot needs to call a special session to get a preemption law for vaccines passed which is fully in Texas tech amendment powers.

The Revised Laws of that Commonwealth, c. 75, § 137, provide that

“the board of health of a city or town if, in its opinion, it is necessary for the public health or safety shall require and enforce the vaccination and revaccination of all the inhabitants thereof and shall provide them with the means of free vaccination. Whoever, being over twenty-one years of age and not under guardianship, refuses or neglects to comply with such requirement shall forfeit five dollars.”


68 posted on 09/09/2021 6:56:10 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: JD_UTDallas

No it wouldn’t. To start with the EO violates the Right of Privacy” in Roe V Wade not to mention the 4th and 10 Amendments

If the Democrat’s want to do this they would need Legislation to do it. Good Luck getting that thur Congress. Precedence supports legislative action it does not allow for executive rule by decree.

There is no authority in the US Federak Code for OSHA to dictate personal medical treatments to employees under the guise of “safety”. The courts all ready have ruled that “emergency vaccines” cannot be forgeable required. . This goes way outside an possible legal authority for OSHA and the President

The Court routinely slap down Presidents, and lower courts, that try to legislate by decree. I not so certain as you the Court is going to simply hand over a big chunk of their power to the Executive by allowing this to stand.


69 posted on 09/09/2021 6:57:10 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: JD_UTDallas

Massachusetts is not Texas. Trying to claim a Mass law allows a Texas city to act in this fashion is questionable.


70 posted on 09/09/2021 6:59:16 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: Jane Long
The fact that Abbott is preparing for this...to me, is telling.

Look at how DeSantis has had to fight with the local school districts in Florida to keep them from masking kids. I will guarantee the liberal parts of Texas will fight Abbott as well.

71 posted on 09/09/2021 7:00:50 PM PDT by Bearshouse (Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem. *Thomas Jefferson)
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To: JD_UTDallas

Again, you assume. Based on the history of EO’s that is a very doubtful assumption.


72 posted on 09/09/2021 7:01:13 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: Jane Long

Federal precedence based on Legislation not Executive decree

It a total nonsense attempt to find some way to justify this.

But then the good little Democrat propaganda bots have their DNC directed script and nothing is going to divert them from it.


73 posted on 09/09/2021 7:03:11 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: JD_UTDallas

State, not Federal. Legislative action, not Executive decree.

So nice try but that is a fail.


74 posted on 09/09/2021 7:04:26 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: MNJohnnie

Texas has similar public health laws and the constitutional use of those laws is codified right there in Jacobson vs Mass.

This is why Abbot should call a special session to put in a one state one policy law in the books.

Read the actual USSC

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/197/11/


75 posted on 09/09/2021 7:09:02 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: Bearshouse

You already know the reason ... keep pushing memes like the one I composed .... the fear is manufactured.


76 posted on 09/09/2021 7:16:37 PM PDT by knarf (qa)
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To: MNJohnnie

The OSHA route is the loophole, you think for one second the fedgov didn’t have an Army of high priced federal attorneys look at the relevant statuses and say yeah this won’t stand in USSC court but let’s do it anyways. Get real they had teams of Gmen scouring the las OSHA is the most likely one to pass review of the USSC that’s assuming they even grant standing remember who and what this court is they have the final say unless people actually get froggy and jump with arms. Which is a near zero possibility got to keep all those mortgages and nice cars and the “wife” happy.

Don’t take statement of facts as consent just pointing out the obvious this.government does their homework and is playing for keeps they know the USSC refused to weight in on the election so they have been given an effective mandate by the weak USSC.

Abbot is going the right way use the tenth amendment to set up a state vs fed right and possibly kick off the hot civil war that is in full cold war. If Abbot gets a state law passed that is in line with Jacobson vs Mass then the USSC will have to take standing or let Texas law stand unchallenged.


77 posted on 09/09/2021 7:17:56 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: JD_UTDallas

you think for one second the fedgov didn’t have an Army of high priced federal attorneys look at the relevant statuses and say yeah this won’t stand in USSC court but let’s do it anyways. Get real


If it distracts from Afghanistan, that’s what they want.


78 posted on 09/09/2021 7:20:23 PM PDT by TTFX ( )
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To: TTFX

Don’t forget you don’t get punished for failure when working in government.

You get a promorion.


79 posted on 09/09/2021 7:23:42 PM PDT by TTFX ( )
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To: TTFX

Common sense will tell you that OHSA charter is health and safety in the work place. Companies can already mandate testing as a condition of employment. Rig workers get hair tested before each 3 week stint. Fail the test or refuse it you are not allowed on the rig site. Mandating testing will survive for SURE the courts it’s a integral part of the employer employees relationship nation wide. The USSC will uphold that there is a zero possibility overthrow testing especially for drugs out of OSHA realm. Some employers require vaccinations for.employment. College campuses do for all faculty on campus for meningitis as just one example MMR is another both are preconditions for employment and boosters at the appropriate times for continued employment. I would be surprised if the USSC removes colleges abilities to mandate vaccination for enrollment or employment every university student in Texas has the meningitis vaccination or some medical exemption. The whole experimental vaccine went out the window when Pfizer got it’s BLA making it on par with meningitis or MMR in licenced use for 16+ years. Why would the court see MMR or meningitis also with a valid FDA issued BLA different for Pfizer with a valid FDA issued BLA. There is not much logic for the court to stand on given the existing practices.


80 posted on 09/09/2021 7:32:55 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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