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Arizona Senate President: State’s 11 Electors Cannot Be Recalled After Maricopa Audit
epoch times ^ | 7/18/2021 | jack phillips

Posted on 07/18/2021 6:03:49 PM PDT by bitt

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To: frogjerk

“These “lawmakers” and politicians can’t right a wrong? Is that what they are saying? “

Exactly.

The Constitution of the United States of America doesn’t give them “twosies”.


41 posted on 07/18/2021 6:38:49 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: Kazan

“prevent it from happening again”? I’m not being facetious here, but do you honestly think there will ever again be an “again” to happen? Our last election was November, 2020
That was the last time a vote had a chance to be valid. The socialists have taken it over. And they don’t run for office.


42 posted on 07/18/2021 6:39:12 PM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON.)
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To: centurion316
Certification has a legal effect and once an election has been certified, that contest is over. Check the scoreboard, the clock has run down to 0:00 and the game is over.

There is an out to this, although I don't know how the constitutional remedy works. (Basically, it's like every other legal or contractual proceeding where one side can demonstrate that fraud was committed.)

Otherwise, what would be the point of trying to uncover fraud? (What would be behind those in the media trying so hard to downplay even the suggestion of fraud?)

43 posted on 07/18/2021 6:39:16 PM PDT by Captain Walker ("The side that has Truth gets Humor as a bonus.")
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To: bitt

Wrong question being answered. Of course the lectors cannot be recalled but the certification of those electors can and must be.


44 posted on 07/18/2021 6:42:02 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: Captain Walker

Bttt


45 posted on 07/18/2021 6:42:25 PM PDT by Guenevere (When the foundations are being destroyed what can the righteous do)
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To: Kazan
You're full of it. Exposing the election fraud absolutely necessary to prevent from happening again.<<<<

sorry neighbor...but you're full of it if you think the results will change by letting the same people count the votes....

Please move your deck chair to the forward so us on the Aft of the Titanic have a better view ...

46 posted on 07/18/2021 6:42:58 PM PDT by M-cubed (The MSM is now the 4th Branch of Government.....)
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To: bitt

Fann doesn’t seem to understand US legal precedence. Just because laws don’t permit something, doesn’t mean that they prohibit it. In the US, everything is permitted that is not forbidden.


47 posted on 07/18/2021 6:44:20 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones.)
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To: bitt

The communists are loving the audit exercises...

Excellent review of their efforts so that they will be more clever in covering their mistakes in future elections...

IMHO, 2020 will be remembered as the last (relatively) free & honest election...

All future ones will result in 95% to 5% FOR the communists...
Stalin showed the way...

Also, to be allowed to vote:
- proof of non-attendance (by you or any relative) at the Jan 6th capital hill event,
- proof of annual chicom virus vaccine booster, shots,
- proof of at least one valid snitch against any MAGA terrorist;
- pass thorough home inspection for gun-free status, and
- up-to-date BLM membership & financial support...


48 posted on 07/18/2021 6:44:59 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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To: bitt

I find it hard to believe that if election fraud is demonstrated beyond doubt that there is absolutely nothing that can be done to remedy such fraud.
The “oh well what’s done is done” mantra needs to be challenged vigorously and not simply meekly acceded to as many here are more than willing to do.
The fatalism regularly demonstrated by so many Freepers on this site is quite disgusting. There seems to be no fight in them. They have more in common with RINO’s than with Conservative Patriots.


49 posted on 07/18/2021 6:45:09 PM PDT by ocrp1982 ( Bibicly)
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It does no good to be impatient or impulsive in this process. In poker and political strategy, you never show your cards too soon. Unlike people in these forums, it would be counterproductive at this point for them to go around saying, “Yeah, we’re going to overturn the election and put President Trump back in office.”

The Democrats tried to strangle this audit at birth. The Arizona Senate did it anyway. The Democrats have been trying to kill it all through the process. The Arizona Senate has muscled through.

Anything can be said by anybody now about what can and can’t be done when the final results are in. But if fraud or incompetence is shown on the unprecedented massive scale that it is expected to, the outrage will be sure to change the picture and more severe remedies will suddenly be on the table.

50 posted on 07/18/2021 6:46:32 PM PDT by fidelis (Defeatism and despair are like poison to men's souls. If you can't be positive, at least be quiet.)
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To: Captain Walker

“Otherwise, what would be the point of trying to uncover fraud? “

To prevent it ‘next time’?

After the Congress accepts the undisputed electoral numbers from the states the US Constitution allows no further dispute of the election.
There were and are good reasons for our Founders doing that.


51 posted on 07/18/2021 6:46:51 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: bitt

The Tilden electors tried to get the Supreme Court to do that after the disputed 1876 election. It didn’t work. The Electoral College isn’t an ongoing institution. It has one thing to do and then it’s gone until the next election.


52 posted on 07/18/2021 6:47:47 PM PDT by x
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To: CatOwner

I don’t think the audits are a waste at all. We have seen enough to know that the election was corrupted. I know, and they know and they know I know. For right now that will have to be enough, but nothing they do will be legitimate and I hope enough of the country knows too.


53 posted on 07/18/2021 6:47:49 PM PDT by Bearshouse
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To: CodeToad

It [vote fraud] will happen the next time the Democrats want it to. Should the Democrats not have the number of votes to win legitimately, they will resort to fraud, Bank on it. Expect it in 2022 and 2024. Along with2028 by 2028 with the help of the Education System, their takeover of the Country should be complete.


54 posted on 07/18/2021 6:49:30 PM PDT by sport
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To: CatOwner

Catty, the audit was required to prove the irregularities. Nothing beyond that being done can hope to do anything, so that got done.

What is your problem, snide man?


55 posted on 07/18/2021 6:53:22 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: bitt; All
As of a few minutes ago, and noting that I am not expert on this issue, no mention of the legal process of QUO WARRANTO in this thread.

Quo warrants laws at federal and state level address the problem of fraudulently elected politicians. Strangely, if fraud can be proved, such laws seem to trigger only when the crooks take oath of office.

Below are references to District of Columbia quo warranto which Trump legal team has hopefully been aware of, probably long before desperate Democrats allegedly stole election from him.

Also quo warranto activity in Arizona which probably does not address electoral votes.

Insights welcome.

56 posted on 07/18/2021 6:53:32 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Blood of Tyrants

After Congress counts and records them, anyway.


57 posted on 07/18/2021 6:53:35 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters. )
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To: bitt
Arizona Senate President Karen Fann, a Republican, said ... whatever

Historically, this kind of overthrow of a nation and it's people has led to peaceful settlements prompted by massive slaughter, rivers of blood, and carcasses rotting and littering the landscape for decades.

This time it might be different? Sure ....

People are going to die, either from warfare, or from some semblance of trials, convictions, and punishments.

Maybe half of those who die will be truly guilty, and maybe half will be innocent.

Karen Fann is no more legitimate than any other person who "won" a spot in this nationwide fraud-of-all-frauds election.

Thanks to organized and coordinated vote fraud, today we have:

An illegitimate president and vice president;
An illegitimate Congress in both Houses;
Illegitimate governors and state legislatures;
Illegitimate county and city governments;
Illegitimate school boards;
Illegitimate decisions in referenda and initiatives.

Until our elections are cleaned up, there is no purpose to elections because their results cannot be trusted.

None of the current elected positions can be considered legitimate.

I know this is really hard to comprehend, but people need to wrap their empty noggins around this simple fact.

58 posted on 07/18/2021 6:57:46 PM PDT by meadsjn (, )
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To: bigdaddy45; Baldwin77
Sorry guys, its not going to happen.

Sorry, bigdaddy45, it IS going to happen. It WILL happen.

WE ARE IN A WAR! WE'RE NOT LETTING THE STEAL STAND!

GAME ON!

59 posted on 07/18/2021 6:58:25 PM PDT by C210N (You can trust government or you can understand history. But you CANNOT do both)
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To: ocrp1982

The fatalism regularly demonstrated by so many Freepers on this site is quite disgusting. There seems to be no fight in them. They have more in common with RINO’s than with Conservative Patriots.

Yep too many F’ing experts because its not written in law by lawmakers who say there is nothing lawmakers can do. Lets see what happens when their polls go into the sh!tter! Lets see when inflation start sprialing out of control and its revieled this senile phuck in the White House stole several states through massive fraud?. Lets see how well democraps can govern when the fraud is all reveiled to benefit them, and 3-4 states were cheated out of their representation? It will spark a civil war if its not taken care of. Funny how things cant be done it if its not in the Constitution and the law, yet at the same time they can shread the letter of the law and wipe their asses with the Constitution and its no problem.


60 posted on 07/18/2021 6:59:11 PM PDT by The MAGA-Deplorian (Democrats are lawless because Republicans are ball-less!)
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