When Can Government Kick Open the Door of Your House?

Townhall,com ^ | April 21, 2021 | Terry Jeffrey

[JimRed]

There are so many laws that you can violate without even knowing it that allowing police to do what this officer did would entirely gut the 4th Amendment.

“There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.”― Ayn Rand

[Openurmind]

I think the question is at what point should it be acceptable to violate constitutional rights of private property and search and seizure selectively? The difference between a loud stereo or a lawnmower? Where does it stop when your neighbors can selectively tell an individual what they can and cannot do with mob rule. There has to be a line that protects each and every citizen as an individual. OK to kick in a door for this suspicion without a warrant? but not OK to kick in a door for that suspicion without a warrant?

Constitution dictates they cannot kick in a door without a warrant period, no matter what the circumstances are. As it should be...

[wildcard_redneck]

“There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.”― Ayn Rand

Something that Noise-Nazi Karens cannot even begin to recognize.

[MAAG]

This is really messing up this person’s life.

Get the attorney to check the right to a speedy trial waiver, if not signed by defendant talk to the D.A. about dropping the charges. Be careful if you have to file for dismissal, as this would lead to a public embarrassment for the prosecutor and Judge. If so, tell your young relative to move and NEVER be in that court again, or he'll get the max possible sentence for any charge.

[ProtectOurFreedom]

LOL.

I hate bright dash lights in cars because they ruin my night vision, so I always turn the dash lights down as far as they go. About 25 years ago, we were on a family ski trip to the Sierras and passing through Murphys, CA. On the way out of town, the town faded away, so I sped back up. My dash lights were down, so it wasn’t easy reading the speedometer. Busted! I sped up a hundred yards before the 50 mph sign. Our four year old son was in hysterics thinking Daddy was going to jail.

Nothing like helping small towns meet their budget

[ProtectOurFreedom]

Thanks. I’ve never heard about a “right to a speedy trial waiver.” I was doing research on the constitutional requirement for a speedy trial, but it seems to be restricted to cases where you are rotting in prison.

[wildcard_redneck]

Nothing like helping small towns meet their budget.

That's about it, theft under color of law. Avoid a pest hole in West Texas off I-10 named Van Horn that funds itself entirely off speed traps. I lived in Texas in 1997 and sometime around then the speed trap abuse was so bad by towns and counties that Texas had to pass a law mandating that all traffic fines had to go into the state's general fund. Now that they can't keep the stolen loot from speeding tickets their new business model is ticketing RVs that try to overnight park in parking lots. They are only payable by money order.

[Musket]

If your first response to a problem is "there ought to be a law", YOU are the problem.

95% of the problems in this country would be gone if 95% of the busy-body, nanny-state, karens would shut their stupid mouths and mind their own business.

No, actually that wasn't my first response. I actually tried talking to these fine folks and they either ignored me, laughed at me, or told me to "EFF OFF. I DO WHAT I WANT".

Good on you Augie. You obviously live somewhere where you don't have to put up with this crap. "Loud music" is a Pioneer 10 watt amplifier with a couple 6" x 9" Jensen's volume on 10. NOT a 1,000 watt amplifier and trunk full of 15" subwoofers. If you can't tell the difference you're hopeless.

Me the problem? Hardly. Me the solution - definitely. Every town has a sign at the city limits saying "No Truck Brakes" and for good reason - they're loud as F. Well these subwoofer systems are 10 times - 20 times - 30 times worse.

I'm not anti-Government, I'm anti STUPID Government. "Your freedom ends where mine begins" so yeah, this IS my business, the people that play them have MADE IT my business. These giant subwoofer systems are WAY, WAY over bounds and a menace to civil society and the people who own and operate them are too stupid to understand that, hence we need a law.

[Musket]

And I've also sent emails to JBL and Kicker explaining to them that they're destroying the quality of life in the U.S. and in the case of JBL that I would never buy their products again.

Of course I got no response.

[Augie]

Sorry I hurt your little feelers.

I live out in the sticks. I can’t see my closest neighbor’s house when the trees are leafed out, but I can hear his music when he kicks on the patio system. Dude plays good music so I don’t mind. I’m sure he can hear my music when I’m working in the shop and have the slider doors open.

Maybe next time your neighbors are blasting the tunes you can call the cops on them and find out just how useful the law is. If Junior Officer Friendly is having a bad day he might come out and shoot someone’s dog.

[Herakles]

Noise ordances are use as woke intimidation. Only used to get 2 white guys to fight while the real assholes who cause the problem play the victim card. The day the police stay home is the day the garbage gets taken out.