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Merck will help make Johnson & Johnson coronavirus vaccine
MSN ^ | 2 Mar 2021 | Laurie McGinley, Christopher Rowland

Posted on 03/02/2021 8:19:36 AM PST by BeauBo

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To: Republican Wildcat
The central dogma of genetics is that DNA creates RNA then RNA creates protein. This is a one way process it can't be mixed such as protein creates the DNA (IE: instructs) In other words the RNA can't insert itself into the DNA. That goes against the bases of the central dogma of genetics.

Reverse transfection claims the process can alter the central dogma of genetics or retro-viruses.
They believe an enzyme can convert RNA into DNA and the DNA gets insured into the host DNA and reproduces from there. This is all very theoretical but the argument of how RNA infects DNA is answered. Covid-19 is an RNA virus which suggest this is the process it goes through.
mRNA vaccines alter the RNA virus and creates altered DNA and new proteins are created from this altered DNA. The tricky part is not degrade the DNA because they're not using the actual Covid virus to create the RNA proteins. How they know if this works against covid virus when they don't use the virus is very strange.
This is not a live virus which is what a vaccine is. They're not making the protein from the covid virus then the only way this can work if it works at all is from the drug ingredient list that you posted

21 posted on 03/02/2021 6:02:58 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn

You clearly have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.


22 posted on 03/02/2021 9:41:49 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat

Good luck then


23 posted on 03/02/2021 9:46:14 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: BeauBo

I inherited Merck stock via their merger with Schering Plough. They are a very flexible company in terms of research on their own and joint research projects and production ventures. That is what they are doing now, thus helping to make the whole chain of production of the vaccine faster and in large quantities.

The way Biden/Harris and their Marxists are destroying the economy (I’m out of work), I’ll need to cash in the stocks just to keep living and take care of my partially disabled wife.

I have to thank my father and mother for having the foresight to invest in AMERICAN COMPANIES many decades ago.

Keeping American workers working, producing dividends for investors, and helping to keep Americans alive. That is the AMERICAN WAY. Take a picture now because it could become extinct very soon.


24 posted on 03/03/2021 12:44:49 AM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Steve Van Doorn
"mRNA vaccines are called vaccines but they don't create antibodies."

False. They do create antibodies including neutralizing antibodies. In fact, the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines create significantly more neutralizing antibodies than mild infections.

"Antibodies can be created two ways. Either your body expelled the disease. Or giving a close facsimile of the disease."

False. Antibodies can be created in one way: dendritic cells take a piece of the invading pathogen (the antigen) to lymph nodes where T-cell activation specific to that antigen begins. Those T-cells then begin activation of B-cells also specific to that antigen. Those B-cells then create antibodies.

"mRNA vaccines are really a time released drug that affects the symptoms. Kind of like NyQuil that last longer. The mRNA process of bonding to cells does have major side effects that should not be over looked."

Completely and totally incorrect.

The mRNA vaccines contain a small piece of messenger RNA wrapped inside a lipid (fat) shell. Upon contact with a cell membrane, the lipid shell dissolved into the lipid bilayer of the cell membrane, releasing mRNA into the cellular cytoplasm (which is outside the nucleus). The mRNA then encounters a ribosome, whose only job is to take mRNA and build the protein encoded in it. It doesn't know or care where that mRNA comes from, so it'll take the vaccine's mRNA and build its encoded protein. That protein is the S-protein (or spike protein) which sits on the surface of the SARS-CoV-2 virus and enables entry into cells. It's harmless by itself, but the immune system recognizes it as foreign and treats it as evidence of pathogenic invasion. Dendritic cells take samples of the S-protein to the lymph nodes and the process of antibody production begins.

If all that is too much to read, here is a short and simple animation that explains it.

25 posted on 03/03/2021 8:06:26 AM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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said, "Moderna and Pfizer vaccines create significantly more neutralizing antibodies than mild infections"

This is true though they're monospecific antibodies. They're using Neuropilin-1 which their claiming it interacts with the growth of covid-19.
Which are not specific to Covid-19. Meaning the slightest variation the antibody is nearly useless.

26 posted on 03/03/2021 11:00:19 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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"the slightest variation the antibody is nearly useless."

If that were true, they wouldn't work for the South Africa, UK, Brazil, etc. variants. But they do work for them. In fact, they work better for them than asymptomatic or mild COVID-19 infections.

The evidence is that the vaccines available in the US today provide broad protection against a spectrum of variants currently in circulation. That's not to say it's always and forever perfect. A new variant could emerge tomorrow that completely ignores the neutralizing antibodies and then all bets are off. However, the good news is that the third generation (mRNA platform) vaccines are incredibly easy to tweak and the FDA process to make small changes in an otherwise tested product is fairly easy. The changes in the flu vaccine go through that process every year.

If a new variant emerged tomorrow that reset us back to square 1, Moderna and Pfizer could have a new vaccine into CVS and Walgreens stores in a matter of weeks. Johnson&Johnson would likely need 6-8 months just to get the first new dose packaged.

27 posted on 03/03/2021 11:38:00 AM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

have you ever looked at the adverse effects the BNT162b2 mRNA Covid-19 Vaccine on people?


28 posted on 03/03/2021 11:56:29 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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The Pfizer vaccine? Sure. Mostly pain at the injection site, some swelling, some irritation, fatigue, and headaches. Pretty normal stuff.

About 1 in 90,000 (0.001%) have a severe anaphylactic reaction. This mostly happens in people with a known severe allergy issue (e.g. people who have to carry an EpiPen with them everywhere they go). https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7002e1.htm

These reactions are readily reversible, typically with a shot of epinephrine. When you get your shot, they have you wait for 15 minutes (they actually set a timer) to ensure you aren’t one of the unlucky folks who have that kind of reaction. With Moderna’s vaccine, that rate is 1 in 400,000 (0.00025%). https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7004e1.htm

In either case, it’s unlikely you’ll ever meed anyone who’s had a bad reaction to either. In my case (Moderna shot), my left arm was sore for about 2-3 days after the first shot. And I mean it was pretty sore. Not sore as though I thought I was dying, but sore like I had done a ton of working out all of a sudden. The second shot left my arm much less sore and for just about a day. There was also so extremely mild swelling. Colleagues who’ve had the shot also reported some cases of significant fatigue for a day or two after.

I’ve seen many who would have gladly traded their COVID-19 experience for a couple days of a sore arm.


29 posted on 03/03/2021 12:10:39 PM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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The bottom line is - if you don’t know what mRNA is, or what a virus is, and clearly you don’t, don’t form strong opinions on it and then spread misinformation.

Absolutely nothing you have said is even remotely accurate. That’s just the reality of it.


30 posted on 03/03/2021 5:36:25 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
said, "1 in 90,000 (0.001%) have a severe anaphylactic reaction"

Bottle the question up using serious allergic reactions not all reactions
Moderna in So Cal was asked by Dr Pan (California Department of Public Health) to pause the administration of these viruses.

Last year there was about 700,000 adverse reactions from all vaccines. About half of those where from Pfizer covid which wasn't out the whole year.
https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/datasets.html

The second half of this video is going to haunt me the rest of my life honestly it will. Watching old people physically refuse the vaccine forced to take it and die. there is another video of these same old people going into convulsions before they died.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/EAU4xnrf0XyV/

31 posted on 03/03/2021 6:17:19 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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said, "The bottom line is - if you don’t know what mRNA is, or what a virus is, and clearly you don’t, don’t form strong opinions on it and then spread misinformation"

before that you said,
"dendritic cells take a piece of the invading pathogen (the antigen) to lymph nodes where T-cell activation specific to that antigen begins. Those T-cells then begin activation of B-cells also specific to that antigen. Those B-cells then create antibodies"

This is true with most RNA antibodies not with the BNT162b2 mRNA Covid-19 Vaccine. I already point this out TWICE that they don't use the viral antigen. Yet you're not reading it or you don't listen? Then accuse me of being ill informed.

Neuropilin-1 is a host factor for SARS-CoV-2 infection
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33082294/

32 posted on 03/03/2021 6:40:31 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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"Moderna in So Cal was asked by Dr Pan (California Department of Public Health) to pause the administration of these viruses."

It was a pause of one specific lot for three days while they made sure there was nothing wrong with that one particular lot. It was determined to be fine. Vaccinations resumed.

"Last year there was about 700,000 adverse reactions from all vaccines."

Yeah, it's headaches, sore arms, and fatigue from coast to coast. Know what isn't coast to coast? Polio. Whooping cough. And soon, COVID-19. I've seen far too many people who would have gladly traded their COVID-19 experience for a sore arm.

33 posted on 03/04/2021 10:59:19 AM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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said," headaches, sore arms, and fatigue"
I think you're officiating. As you know its true the vast majority are those symptoms though there are a lot of far more serous problems including death. As I shown in the video many of those patients that where forced to take the drug died.
34 posted on 03/04/2021 11:37:01 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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