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Last Known Surviving Widow of a Civil War Veteran Dies at 101 in Missouri
People Mag ^ | Jan 5, 2021 | Joelle Goldstein

Posted on 01/05/2021 5:56:58 PM PST by Rebelbase

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To: mass55th
That’s awesome!! Back when I was doing my research, I got into Civil War music. My favorite band was the 97th Regimental String Band. I’ve got several of their albums.

Please let me know if you find this one recorded anywhere. Otherwise, I may need to get a recording out somehow. I don't want it to be lost to history. It's very short.
41 posted on 01/05/2021 9:40:06 PM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Dr. Franklin
"Please let me know if you find this one recorded anywhere."

I've never heard it in all the years of Civil War music I've listened to. I just did an online search of the words you wrote, and came up empty. Usually if you search for words or a sentence from a song, the search engine will bring it up.

42 posted on 01/05/2021 9:54:47 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: Dr. Franklin; mass55th

Nice thread to read, even though the overall flavour is Union.


43 posted on 01/05/2021 9:58:59 PM PST by Hieronymus (“I shall drink to the Pope, if you please, still, to conscience first, and to the Pope afterwards.”)
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To: mdmathis6
"(the honeymoon at least would be a real “howler”!)"

ROFL!! Sorry it took me so long to find your reply. Thanks...I needed the laugh!

44 posted on 01/05/2021 10:16:52 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: mass55th; Chode

Thank You

(((PING)))


45 posted on 01/05/2021 10:56:42 PM PST by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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To: MrChips

>This death almost seems like an omen.

Like Methuselah, the oldest man, who died aged 969 years, a week before the Flood.


46 posted on 01/06/2021 1:27:01 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (White Privilege does NOT begin with Being White but when you ACT "WHITE"! So, -- ACT "WHITE"!)
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To: mass55th
I met the daughters of a Civil War soldier back when I was doing research on the 55th Mass.

How I envy you. Back in the early 70s I overheard my mother and grandmother talking with "great Aunt Margaret." I met her to say hi, but knew nothing else about her.
It was years later I discovered she was the daughter of my gg-Grandfather who was an Irish emigrant, a CW vet (artillery) and worked on the Erie Canal.
Here I was a Marine VN vet (artillery) and I'm sure great Aunt Margaret had a lot of stories about her father had I only opened my stupid mouth and asked.
47 posted on 01/06/2021 8:48:11 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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"Here I was a Marine VN vet (artillery) and I'm sure great Aunt Margaret had a lot of stories about her father had I only opened my stupid mouth and asked."

First of all, thank you for your service. My brother was a Vietnam Vet, U.S. Army, 25th Division (Mechanized), Cu Chi '66-'67. He's been gone since 1995.

I live in Rome, New York where the digging for the Erie Canal began. There's a historic marker at the site. Here's a link to a page I found on it:

Clinton's Ditch

My father was born in Holland, and my mother in Canada. Both came to the U.S. as small kids. I never knew any of my grandparents. They were all dead before I was born in '47, and I always felt that I had missed a lot by never having met them.

My father knew nothing about his family. Whenever I asked him where his mother was buried, he always said "an apple orchard." It wasn't until my brother died in '95 that I got back in touch with cousins of mine, one of who knew exactly where she was buried and took me there. It turned out to be a piece of property owned by the Dutch Reformed Church down the street from it. There were no headstones at all, and the only way you knew it was a cemetery was because there was one marker, an old GAR (Grand Army of the Republic) marker stuck in the ground. Nothing else, like I said...no headstones. That was weird. From the info I got from my cousin, I was able to procure a copy of my grandmother's death certificate. My Dad had always said she died of TB, and that turned out to be true.

I do have an old photo of the family, which must have been taken shortly after they arrived through Ellis Island. There were three boys, my father the middle son, born in 1904. The boys are all wearing knickers. In 2006, my oldest son and I flew overseas together, rented a car in Brugges, Belgium, and drove the short distance over the border into Holland to visit the village Schoondijke, where my father was born. We stayed in a hotel there overnight, drove around the area, and then headed back to Belgium the next day. Although the trip was short, the fact that I was able to go there meant a lot to me. We would have stayed longer, but both of us had other countries to go to. He to Germany, and me to Paris, then London for a 3-week bus tour of the British Isles. And the funny thing is, I got to visit a lot of the places that would later appear in my family tree. Wish I had known about the connections back then.

My mother knew nothing of her family. Her parents had split when she was very little. She had no memory of her father, and although I had an announcement of my grandparent's wedding, no birth certificate has ever been found for my mother. She always told us we have no relatives. My Dad died in '78. My mother in '90. The following year I headed to the village Picton, in Ontario, Canada where my mother was supposedly born. I knew I had a great-uncle who died in France in WWI, and I found a WWI memorial statue on the village green with his name on it. I visited my grandmother's grave, went to the library there, looked through microfilms, and my last stop was at the local archives. There I found a family history that provided me with information that my 5th Great Grandfather was a Patriot from Dutchess County, New York.

What I came away with from that trip, was that my mother's family had originally settled in the U.S., but at some point after the Revolutionary War, one of the sons of my 5th Great Grandfather went to Canada. Just last year I joined Ancestry.com and began working on my family tree. I found I had ancestors that served on both sides during the Revolutionary War. There have been plenty of other revelations during my tree search, but unfortunately, the farther back you go, the more you are relying on hints from the Ancestry site, and the trees of other subscribers, so I have to take my findings with a grain of salt, because they lead to the British monarchy (Medieval period), Spanish and French monarchy, and even German aristocracy...all on my mother's side. My father's family tree is full of farmers, and laborers. I did find a picture of father's grandfather (my great-grandfather) on Ancestry.com. My father looked just like him! And I discovered he'd worked on the railroad in Holland, which was very weird, because my father worked on the NY Central Railroad for over 50 years. I had my DNA done last year, and found that I'm 61% English, Wales and northwestern Europe; 14% Norway; 11% Scotland; 8% Sweden; and 6% Germanic Empire. I knew about the English and Dutch connection, but nothing about the others.

One story I heard growing up was that my uncle, my mother's only brother who I'd only met a few times as a kid, enlisted in the U.S. Army in WWII. He wasn't a citizen at the time. The story goes, that because there was no record of where or when he entered the country, the military took him to the Canadian side of the "Peace Bridge" in Niagara Falls, and had him walk back over the bridge to get an entrance date. I didn't think I'd ever be able to verify that, but found the actual document for his naturalization, and the date he walked that bridge was June 1, 1943. He had already enlisted on September 9, 1942. He was naturalized while stationed at Fort Sam Houston, on his way overseas.

Sorry this has been so long. Hope I haven't bored you.

48 posted on 01/06/2021 11:00:58 AM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: mass55th
Sorry about your brother. 25th Division (Tropic Lightning) is an historic unit ... they're depicted in the movie,"From Here to Eternity" ... one of my favorites. Ever look up the Tunnels of Cu Chi on YouTube?

You have a really interesting history, me not so much. I live in Rochester, grew up in NYC, but knew nothing about my family's paternal history.
When I retired in 2007 I used Ancestry to discover my past all the way back to Ireland. With a classic Irish surname, it was not an easy task - but I eventually discovered my history was typical - survived the Great Famine (1840s); emigrated to NYC; descendants spread out over the years.
But that's what made the great Aunt Margaret debacle more painful. I never even knew I had maternal relatives who came from Ireland since my mother's family is like 90% English.
49 posted on 01/06/2021 11:55:54 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

With all that English ancestry, we might even be related :-) I was born and raised in Rochester, New York. Ended up in the Utica/Rome area around 1972 with my then husband. I remember my brother writing home about the tunnels of Cu Chi. He said they even found Singer sewing machines in them. Quite the black market over there so he said. I’ve seen the YouTube videos, and years ago I bought the book “The Tunnels of Cu Chi” by Tom Mangold. I gave it to my niece after her father died. She was only 16 at the time. Now she’s married with four kids of her own, that of course he never got to see or enjoy.


50 posted on 01/06/2021 12:09:19 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: mass55th
With all that English ancestry, we might even be related :-) I was born and raised in Rochester

When I looked at your DNA numbers I thought we might be related too :)
I'll bet you were born in St Mary's Hospital, Dr. Dimarsico.
Even though my parents lived in Brooklyn in '47, my mother came home to Rochester to have me. We stayed in Brooklyn until was I was 4, then moved out further on LI. The family them moved to Rah-cha-cha in '64. Just in time for the riots.
I like to think our Norwegian and Swedish DNA links back to our Viking ancestors.
51 posted on 01/06/2021 1:13:44 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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"I'll bet you were born in St Mary's Hospital, Dr. Dimarsico."

No, I was born in the old General Hospital. I believe my mother's doctor was Dr. Dietle who resided in Churchville, NY. He used to make house calls when we were kids, and he gave us all our polio vaccines back in the 50's. I always said you know you're getting old when they've torn down the hospital you were born in, turned your grammar school into a senior citizen apartment building, and tore down your high school. I went to Madison High School on Epworth Street. Had both my sons at Genesee Hospital on Alexander Street in 1966 and 1971. My obstetrician and pediatrician were in the same medical building across the street.

I too like to think I've got some Viking blood in my family tree. I've enjoyed watching the series "Vikings" on History all these years. For some reason they decided to air the second half of the last season on Amazon Prime. I have Prime, and started watching it. Then I learned that they are planning on a spinoff Vikings series called "Valhalla." There's also a series you might want to catch if you get Science Discovery Channel. I downloaded both seasons of it from the internet, but just found out it's going to be airing in America, starting Sunday, January 10th. It's titled "Secrets of the Viking Stone." The original title is "American Rhunestone." Here's the info page about the show on IMDb:

Secrets of the Viking Stone

I didn't realize it when I first started watching it, that actor Peter Stormare is a part of the program because of his being from the same village in Sweden as the farmer who emigrated to Minnesota, and found the stone. Stormare has been in a lot of movies and TV shows. The one I remember him from was "Longmire." Anyway, I've found the show to be very interesting.

52 posted on 01/06/2021 1:33:32 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: mass55th
I've enjoyed watching the series "Vikings" ...
Didn't do a thing for me.
I was in the first graduating class at Arcadia HS (1966), almost 55 years ago ... yeow!
53 posted on 01/07/2021 5:44:04 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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