Posted on 12/11/2020 6:38:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Not long ago this country allowed a person to become president who clearly was not qualified by the wording in the constitution, not a natural born citizen and no body in politics or media muttered a word about it. We paid dearly for that one.
You are ignoring the fact that the Supreme Court is going to either put a cherry on top of defeating the most popular president we've ever had by election fraud, or disallowing blatant unconstitutional behavior by enforcing the constitutional remedy.
I’m not ignoring it, but I am predicting that the Supreme Court will do so. Barrett ignored a constitutional and legal issue before the election that might have avoided the wholesale fraud that has occurred. She set the pattern that has played out by the Judiciary from that day to today.
The courts have been bobbing and weaving about all the illegal and unconstitutional assertions, avoiding hearing the evidence, finding facts, and adjudicating the disputes. What makes anyone think that they are going to change their behavior at this point?
The States have certified their elections. The Electors will meet on Monday, and the theft of this election will be codified. The conspirators are in charge of the process and therefore we can safely predict the outcome. Has there been massive election fraud? No doubt. Does evidence exist? Mountains of it. Will anything be done about it before the Electoral College votes are read? Unlikely. The fight will go on, but we are headed toward an inaugration of the most corrupt politician in the history of this country and at least 51% of the American people are fine with that.
Your so called Conservative Supreme Court is going to disappoint you. They are not looking out for your interests, or the Country for that matter.
Wisconsin Elections Commission say that no one filed a formal affidavit and so there is no fraud. Other hearing people said there are problems with the state election laws. This will have to wait to change next year.
There are ballots in question but will be resolved shortly; methods of reporting ballots is what caused spikes and confusion, despite the open hostility and hidden counting that went on in Milwaukee County during the election and during the recount - is all anecdotal with no formal affidavits to back up accusations.
Republican controlled legislature will be sending HarrisBiden electors Monday.
All Hail President Xi!
The fight will go on, but we are headed toward an inaugration of the most corrupt politician in the history of this country and at least 51% of the American people are fine with that.
I just have to respond. PDJT swore an oath to defend us against all enemies foreign and domestic. Do you think he will allow massive election fraud to stand? Please look up executive order 13848, and take note how confident he appears. It regards foreign interference in our elections. Then ask yourself, will Xie Biden be president?
But a GOPe article I recently saw in National Review argues that they don’t have standing and that even residents of the states in question don’t have standing.
I think that you are wandering into the realm of fantasy. What you are suggesting is that Trump will lead an insurrection to seize power. I doubt that he will do so.
What he should do, and what I believe he will do is to continue the legal arguments and he will fight to stand up a political movement that will have its aim of winning the election of 2024. He will rid himself of the GOP Establishment Benedict Arnolds and build a loyal team that can leverage his base to bring the criminals to justice, restore our Republic and build a political machine that can successfully fight his enemies. That certainly can be done. Pulling a rabbit out of a hat and winning this election will not happen, unfortunately.
There are plenty of likely targets. Republican quislings can be recalled, sued, removed or politically emasculated. The Governors of Georgia and Arizona might be a good start. Let the rest of them know that they will be next. You will be amazed at the change of hearts and behavior can be done.
Agreed. They’ll do what they dictate, and we’ll obey.
At this point you would be pretty hard pressed to find someone who hasn't filed an amicus brief for one side or the other.
I’m sorry about the outcome, but you need not apologize. Just get out of your bubble and recognize that the Establishment are not your friends. Now join with Trump and his real supporters and help build a political machine to destroy these people in 2022 and 2024.
No need to apologize. Now let’s get busy and help Trump build a political machine that can bury the Establishment, both Democrats and Republicans in 2022 and 2024. I am getting a little long in the tooth, but I’m up to a couple more fights
National Review lost it’s way years ago.
You two can stop your gloating... you both still have this completely back asswards. There is a high stakes psychological dance being played out in the courts as well as a legal battle. The Texas suit was not as strong as others already in the pipeline; I assumed that because of time constraints and the way that it could have wrapped this mess up that the Supreme Court would use it to reverse this travesty. I was dead wrong. It was used for another purpose... to show how “fair and even handed” the court is. This was something that they obviously felt was necessary for their final decision to be accepted by the opposition and much of the public. The court is sensitive to the fact that we are on the verge of extreme unrest. So the dog and pony show continues... as it so often does in legal procedings.
This obvious fraudulent election will not stand. I know of no judicial body which has endorsed its own destruction by ruling in favor of obvious, blatant, ugly and immoral fraud. Biden, Harris, and Democrat leadership will “pack the court” with leftists at their earliest convenience if given the opportunity. The conservatives on the court know this and obviously have another suit in mind. They are waiting to "see the whites of their eyes". This is still going to go our way this year in a dramatic way.
This was not a "back stabbing" by the three junior members of the court... it was a frustrating but routine part of the dog and pony show that those of us compelled to watch our legal system in action witness all of the time. The conservative majority will use one of the other suits as the instrument of this obviously fraudulent election's destruction, now that the Texas suit has served its purpose.
Thanks for your great insights, which I believe are incorrect. Pay attention to the events of the next four years and be prepared to reevaluate you assessment.
I’m not gloating. Over a quarter century ago, I took my oath as a lawyer, and for just about half that time, I have been doing nothing but Federal litigation.
I took one look at this lawsuit - which wasn’t even a lawsuit, BTW, it was a request for permission to file a lawsuit - and I thought “It’s frivolous on its face. TX has no standing. It’s just a ploy to put some garbage in front of SCOTUS and bypass the trial court and appellate court.”
I KNEW the lawsuit was frivolous on its face, and any attorney with reasonable competence should have known it as well.
This was not a valiant but ill-fated effort to seek justice. It was an obvious ploy to placate and appease PDJT and his supporters. I, for one, don’t like being manipulated.
All these guys who piled onto the lawsuit, much like a clown car in a circus, were just deceiving us. Manipulating us.
That is my piece on the merits of the case.
Addressing now, the idea that SCOTUS will be packed: No, it won’t. There are moderate Democrat senators from midwest states (say, Joe Manchin) who have explicitly said they will not go along with any court-packing scheme.
This is not the end of the nation. It is just DC going back to business as usual.
That is not true at all.
First, standing is a concept in Federal court, not so much in state courts. The reason is simple: Federal courts can only adjudicate live controversy between parties that are affected by the controversy. Otherwise, they would be issuing advisory opinions, which is legislating from the bench, and a violation of the Constitutional principle of separation of powers.
So I have no standing to sue if a law infringes a Hindu’s freedom of religion.
But individual candidates and parties have standing to sue. And an individual voter has standing if he alleges that his right to cast a vote or have his vote counted was infringed.
Lots of cases were taken to trial courts, both state and federal, and they all lost. As far as I know, not a single one of those cases has worked its way up to SCOTUS. One came close, but SCOTUS declined to hear the case.
Which is the next issue: even if a party with standing goes through trial court and then, the court of appeals, it does not give him a RIGHT to be heard in SCOTUS. The SCOTUS only hears about 3% of the cases that go before it.
So this lawsuit was a ploy to bypass trial courts and courts of appeal, and go straight to SCOTUS.
It was frivolous on its face, and nothing more than a ploy to appease and placate PDJT and his supporters.
I have said elsewhere, extensively, that this was only an attempt to manipulate and deceive us.
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