Gordon Chang warns China 'configuring its military to kill Americans'

Fox News ^ | September 7, 2020 | Yael Halon

[marktwain]

Note that conquerors don’t want war. What they want are the fruits of war.

A distinction without a difference, by your own standards.

Conquest brings fame,not war. Losing a war is a distinct risk, as is mutiny.

Loot is how you pay off the soldiers and keep the country pacified. A nation swelling with loot tends to be a happy nation.

Wars have long been used as tools to enhance a leaders survival. They distract from the leaders failings and unify nations in a common purpose. (of course, they can fail in these objectives)

[Zhang Fei]

[Some common beliefs in a particular kind of inherent superiority in populations might also add to the probability of expansionism under leaders focused on fame.]

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I’m not sure there’s anything related to beliefs at all. It’s simple competitiveness that permeates the animal kingdom (on a conscious level) and the plant kingdom (presumably on an unconscious level) - the kind of impulse that causes people to gamble, root for the home team over another city’s, et al. The difference is that national leaders get to do this with the resources of the nations they rule, and whatever territory (and peoples) they acquire along the way. You could say it’s the evolutionary principle stretched to the max. Those that successfully compete survive, and those that don’t are replaced.

Hobbes expressed a truism when he postulated that life without government would be a war of all against all. It’s as true today for all of creation as it has been since the first living thing sprang up out of nothingness. But he did not go far enough. Perhaps all government has done is change the nature of this competition such that it is more organized and packs more of a punch.

[gogeo]

Three reasons (IMO)

---Politicians want to prove they are not mere 'nationalists'. I call it 'Star Trek' syndrome.

---Multi national corporations think in multi national terms. Removing barriers suits their purposes. They have allegiance to no one country. Support for international students gives them a leg up when dealing with the ChiComs.

---International students represent a major profit center for universities. Mega buck tuition and potential donations.

In other words...we're on our own.

[Svartalfiar]

If someone was stupid enough to actually invade China there is no way for the US to hold on the ground a country as large as Iran, let alone China - armchair geneal wet dream.

I don't see us actually doing that, either. Granted, what China could really use is a post-WW Japanese style situation, but it's not gonna happen. Even if we did get into a fight, we'd blow the crap out of them, maybe invade Beijing, but that's close to it. Most of their population is dead-broke rural, or poor urban. They don't have the terrorist cave networks like ME countries. And after the ME, there's not going to be any public support for much nation-building. It'll be a kill, surrender, adios.


China can’t even invade Taiwan, let alone the Marshall Islands or Hawaii

Eh, without these US involved, they probably could take Taiwan, but it'd be very messy. Quantity does have a quality all its own. But if a couple other non-US places got involved (Japan, India, SE Asia), I don't know how long it would last. But, of course, we would be involved so it's really a moot point. Unless the Dems grab ahold of everything. Then who knows how far the fans will throw all the shit.

[Wally_Kalbacken]

And the lesson in that was to North Korea and Iran. To wit: stop spending billions on nuclear weapons when for tens of millions you can do much more damage to your enemies.

[Nachoman]

The CCP has killed 180k Americans. We owe them.

[PIF]

without these US involved, they probably could take Taiwan, but it’d be very messy.
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China right now has no way to do a beach landing, has no experience, and no ships to transport an invasion force. Beach landings are complex and are subject to heavy enemy fire, further reducing the troops trained to do a beach landing. The Chinese could not hold the ground and would be pushed back into the sea.

China might be able to bombard Taiwan with arty (like they tried in the 60s?)and missiles, but that’s the extent at the moment

[Colorado Doug]

Rest assured, the fight is coming. China wants it but only when they think they can win it. Sometime the only thing you can chose is when the fight begins.

[familyop]

I haven’t tried using any of the little all-in-one systems (solar generators), because I needed more power for fewer dollars for years.

But for anyone with sufficient safety knowledge for electrical work or at least an ability to read all instructions, following all safety instructions very carefully, this is a good site for information for building your own power plant from the best components. There’s also good information on the pages for each of many components along with some really good deals.

https://www.solar-electric.com/

Be careful. Solar modules can kill if not handled and installed properly. So can batteries (gases, explosions, etc.).

[familyop]

For anyone who is not an electrician, I’d recommend reading all of the pertinent educational pages behind links like this one first.

https://www.solar-electric.com/learning-center/

Then be sure to carefully read all of the warnings that come with the products (especially the solar modules, commonly known as solar panels).

[itsahoot]

Why the heck do we allow 330,000 Chinese students into the US?

Uh, they pay well?

[itsahoot]

Yeah, I know, there’s no way that any nation could invade anyone else with even a tenth of that number, but even if they did, they’d loss most of them.

I don't know about that, we have at least 40 million illegals here seems it might be quite easily done.

[John S Mosby]

Perhaps. But then it would be described as such.

[John S Mosby]

Wonder if anyone in CCP has any idea the kind of nasty stuff we have (only held back by an international conscience instilled and installed by ourselves- as civilized people) at Fort Detrick, MD. The “countermeasures” biowarfare— frankly quite deadly, and never ever publicly disclosed (so, even us regular folks don’t know). It was, after all,the Level 4 virus lab at Detrick that quickly sequenced the DNA/mRNA of the SARS-Cov19 Wuhan virus— and thus a potential vaccine response held in trust by competitive private labs.

[PIF]

Rods from Gd is a child’s concept that would not work, except in a cartoon which is where the idea originated years ago and continues to be a meme for the non-technically inclined.

[John S Mosby]

Quite technically,and clinically trained/inclined FRiend. Lots of clients/ friends in the biz of this kind development in space weapons- who can and do keep secrets. You are welcome to your opinions, and not have aspersions or allusions cast at them.

These certainly would not be the only special items effectively under wraps, and not at liberty to be discussed,at least under this administration and not the loose lipped clintons and obiwonkenyobis.