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Excited Delirium - Complaint in George Floyd case - probable answers to "how" and "why"
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| 05.29.2020
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Posted on 05/29/2020 3:43:09 PM PDT by rxsid
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To: rxsid
1st,2nd or 3rd degree murder?
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posted on
05/29/2020 5:42:41 PM PDT
by
Don Corleone
(The truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth)
To: Ann Archy
No, he has prior arrests.
To: rxsid
From various cases, especially Freddie Gray’s in Baltimore, it appears that claiming to have medical problems is not infrequently claimed by experienced criminals to get them on an easier track, and sit for a few hours in an emergency room before they are tested for drugs. That might lead experienced cops to discount the seriousness of claimed medical and breathing problems, which in some cases might be real. No idea if that entered into the Floyd case, and, even if it did, it would be an explanation, not an excuse.
To: rxsid
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posted on
05/29/2020 6:19:35 PM PDT
by
bitt
('Tyranny' is when you restrict the movement of healthy people.")
To: Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; bgill; ...
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posted on
05/29/2020 6:19:50 PM PDT
by
bitt
('Tyranny' is when you restrict the movement of healthy people.")
To: READINABLUESTATE
Club owner said it was unlikely they knew each other.
And you believe him? It must of been a very large venue, if he did security for 17 years and they never saw each other.
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posted on
05/29/2020 6:26:43 PM PDT
by
Brown Deer
(America First!)
To: rxsid
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posted on
05/29/2020 6:41:28 PM PDT
by
bitt
('Tyranny' is when you restrict the movement of healthy people.")
To: mn-bush-man
the carbon monoxide theory (due to proximity to the tailpipe of the cruiser)?
Unlikely on a maintained vehicle with a catalytic converter.
Possible, not probable.
To: rxsid
Suuuuure - no way 9 minutes of pressure on a carotid artery - nearly 3 minutes even after he became unresponsive, could have anything to do with it
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posted on
05/30/2020 3:31:30 AM PDT
by
trebb
(Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
To: Yogafist
does Minneapolis jails have reasonable conditions or is it a place with a rep as being particularly bad for blacks?
Yeah and I know no jail is a picnic but some are far worse than others.
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posted on
05/30/2020 4:56:20 AM PDT
by
Joe Boucher
( Molon Labe' Baby, Molon Labe)
To: DUMBGRUNT; mn-bush-man
the carbon monoxide theory (due to proximity to the tailpipe of the cruiser)?
Unlikely on a maintained vehicle with a catalytic converter.
Possible, not probable.
And not very likely in any outdoor environment. CO is lighter than air, so it tends to dissipate upwards. And any slight wind will whisk the exhaust away and provide completely fresh air. Watch other cars' exhausts when winter starts hitting - it's constantly drifting in various directions. He might have gotten a couple whiffs, but not nearly enough to do any damage.
To: trebb
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Suuuuure - no way 9 minutes of pressure on a carotid artery - nearly 3 minutes even after he became unresponsive, could have anything to do with it"
"When they tried to put Floyd in their squad car he stiffened and fell to the ground and said he was claustrophobic."
...Then...
"As Lane, Kueng and Chauvin held down Floyd, Lane asked if they should reposition his body.
Should we roll him on his side? Lane asked, according to the charges.
No, staying put where we got him, Chauvin responded.
I am worried about excited delirium or whatever, Lane said.
Thats why we have him on his stomach, Chauvin said."
The kneeing wasn't the cause of the suspected Excited Delirium. It was a result of the suspected Excited Delirium.
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posted on
05/30/2020 7:10:30 PM PDT
by
rxsid
(HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
To: rxsid
I’m not saying the knee caused any delirium, I’m saying there’s a good chance it cut off blood enough to severely compromise the brain...9 minutes of no/reduced blood flow could cause serious brain trauma...the almost 3 minutes after he became unresponsive sealed the deal...whether he had underlying issues or not.
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posted on
05/31/2020 4:15:21 AM PDT
by
trebb
(Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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