Posted on 05/16/2020 10:08:47 PM PDT by L.A.Justice
Yep, that's what's shown in the higher quality nursing homes. In some states (e.g. Mass) every single nursing home has it. But some have a lot fewer deaths.
I’m not worrying about it.
When you take out the nursing home deaths, all those the governors murdered with their policies, and those with serious risk factors, the death rate is simply not worth worrying about.
Besides, my life is in God’s hands and it’s HIS decision when and how I go. I can’t change that. He got me through a bad MRSA infection in the past. He can choose to get me through COVID. Or not.
The best thing to do for all situations is to be right with Him so that whatever happens, you’re ready to meet Him.
All that said, I have no intention of being careless. I will continue to avoid large crowds which I do anyways cause I hate them, wash my hands, get lots of sun, and prep for whatever is coming down the pike, because after this scenario, and with the election coming up, I see the potential for things to get really bad. Very out of control and I plan on being ready for it.
And I am not getting the vaccine.
My body, my choice. Right????
Contact tracing those dreaded Christian’s by the Athiests. How very Nazi of them.
How about Contact tracing a Home Depot.
Democrats are dangerous folks.
No, one of the most sure ways to get this or any other contagious respiratory virus is to handle something teaming with active virus and then “rub” or pick your nose with your contaminated fingers. One of our favorite drills on the hazmat team that I was a leader of was to have two people go through the motions collecting and analyzing samples. The samples being analyzed were contaminated with a florescent dye that seemingly managed to get everywhere. Afterward we used a UV light to detect where our team members had been sloppy. You would be surprised how many team members somehow managed to have a glowing mustache under their nose or glowing areas near their eyes. This was always a great source of entertainment.
That is the biggest problem with making untrained people wear masks that do little more than make people's faces itch. Touching contaminated surfaces and then your face is one of the leading ways to spread a highly contagious pathogen.
I participated in one of those drills. It was sad, concerning and comical all at the same time.
Without a comparative test for aerosols or airborne droplets, your surface test can't be compared to those. Nor did your test measure the dose, it appears to be been entirely qualitative.
Depending on your health, age, where you live and the amount of interactions you have with others there is a high likelihood that you have already been exposed and your immune system has already developed antibodies. So the vaccine might be a complete waste for you, other than giving you a “healthy” dose of preservatives and other chemicals designed to keep the vaccine from going out of spec.
Just pulling your chain... it would be difficult to quantify which method of transmission would result in the greatest viral load. But keeping your hands clean and not touching your face when they are contaminated is a commonly accepted part of preventing the spread of disease. If you want to argue that in this situation that it is not important, because of what you have read about the "super spreading events", it probably isn't going to win you a prize in the Virologist of the Year competition, but who knows?
As a possible point of reference, a choral group had a choir rehearsal in a church in Washington State. Three weeks after the March 10th rehearsal, out of 60 total people, 45 people had the virus (not reported how serious the symptoms ranged) and 2 died.
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I do remember reading about that...
I just hope that people who attended church in Butte County turn out OK...
It is an interesting article, I gave it a cursory perusal and will try to give it more time this morning. I especially enjoyed the ads for the Ruth Bader Ginsberg action figure dolls that kept popping up... but those might be related to “cookies” stored on my tablet.
Another propaganda article from the media.
Our results reveal that under the assumed conditions, the SARS coronavirus was most possible to have spread via the combined long-range airborne and fomite routes, and that the fomite route played a non-negligible role in the transmission.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5519164/
The caveat is that it is a model or various models. But it's studying the spread of an actual coronavirus.
https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/coronavirus/article242712201.html
My wife and I live in this part of the country and my wife's brother who lived in Mt. Vernon died recently. His death was counted by CDC guidelines as “presumptive” Covid-19. He was in his late 60s and had a serious “health condition”. He was receiving hospice care for an inoperable ccancerous brain tumor, but because he died from respiratory failure he got to be counted and the hospital got a bonus payment from the government.
We were the first part of the country to have victims and deaths from this. Antibody tests are starting to show that a very high percentage of people in our area were likely already exposed and developed antibodies before our governors stay at home order went into effect.
What most of the “super spreader” events seem to have in common are enclosed areas with actively sick people spreading a large amount of viral load to others in close proximity. The singers in the above example were 6 to 10 inches apart and packed into a small practice room. Many if not most were elderly. You could not have planned a better way to infect a group of people.
Let's not pussy foot around this. We already know the ways that it spreads. It spreads like any other airborne respiratory virus. It spreads mostly through airborne particles, but also from people touching contaminated surfaces and then their mucus membranes in their eyes and nose. When you have sick person(s) packed tightly in an enclosed space with others who haven't been exposed previously you end up with a lot of individuals who receive a high viral load on first contact and an astoundingly high percentage in some cases develop symptoms especially if they are elderly or have compromised immune systems. And we are now calling this a “super spreader event”.
It is all very predictable given the correct conditions whether you are talking about the common cold, the flu, measles, or any other contagious respiratory pathogen.
Data, we don't need no stinkin' data.
Agree completely. But the people on the Detroit bus could control what they touched, but could not control the woman coughing openly on the bus. A cloth mask would not have helped them either. The woman who coughed was not courteous enough to cover the cough, and would not be courteous enough to wear a mask while obviously sick.
I am just trying to survive and make a living here like everyone else. Some things are under my control even without washing my hands a hundred times a day. The situations I can't control are what I worry about.
Just got back from Home Depot. Last week they were counting customers and only letting in 20% store capacity. Today, nada. It was packed. Maybe 1 in 4 were wearing masks.
Visible sense of people getting fed up and pissed off.
I remember reading that too, I also remember reading that there was something strange about that report. Evidence that it actually happened was hard to find, what choral group, in what church were they meeting, names of the dead? It was a way to convince people that church was dangerous, and it worked.
We have no disagreement that I am aware of from our discussion. Just batting the ball back and forth...
We live in Washington where thanks to the half million recent Chinese immigrants in our area and the direct flights from Wuhan that were arriving daily at SeaTac we had the first outbreak here. Yet the only person that I know personally who died purportedly from the virus was my brother-in-law and he had an inoperable cancerous brain tumor.
This winter we seemed to be having a worse than normal flu season, then miraculously when this thing started headlining, the flu disappeared and everyone believed they had coronavirus. I haven’t heard of 1 flu death in this county since then. It is a damned miracle I tell you. We have by far the most coronavirus deaths in the state and in the same time period approximately a 1,000,000% reduction in flu deaths. Who could have predicted that?
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