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[WATCH] California Docs Say Lockdown vs. Non-Lockdown 'Did Not Produce a Statistically Different Number of Deaths'
PJ Media ^ | 04/26/2020 | Stacey Lennox

Posted on 04/26/2020 6:46:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Vaduz

Fear not... saith the Lord.


41 posted on 04/26/2020 8:44:21 AM PDT by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
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To: SeekAndFind
BTW, folks. I got a lot of heat from readers who called me a despicable liar for claiming that Covid-19’s mortality is no more serious than a deadly season of the flu.

I NEVER SAID THAT.

You'd have been more than right if you'd said that. Coronavirus death rates are actually LOWER than the flu.

42 posted on 04/26/2020 8:46:34 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Vaduz; MortMan

RE: Sweden 8 million people not a good data source.

Sweden has over 10 million people.


43 posted on 04/26/2020 8:47:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: PAR35
Exactly where were there hospital overflow?
NYC is the epicenter right?
President Trump built 3000 hospital beds at the Javits Center in midtown Manhattan. Up till now its still mostly empty.
The 1000 bed comfort ship President Trump sent to New York has now been returned unused.
44 posted on 04/26/2020 8:51:42 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

You are the one with the tinfoil hat.


46 posted on 04/26/2020 8:54:37 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: fuzzylogic

“You can see the exponential growth”

I don’t think you understand the phrase “exponential growth”. Just because you have 10 then 100 doesn’t mean that is exponential growth. Those You need to see 100 turn 1000 and then 10,000 to 100,000 to a million. We didn’t see that.

As to you claiming the silly measures taken prevented that growth, answer why other viruses such as the flu and common cold continued their growth during the same time.


47 posted on 04/26/2020 8:57:27 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Still not a good data source it’s like taking data from NY and saying it’s a model of the country.


48 posted on 04/26/2020 9:00:51 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: fuzzylogic
You can see the exponential growth that was happening before the lock-down - then it went immediately flat because we all stayed home.

Maybe I’ve been looking in the wrong places. I have not seen that. Can you point me to that?

49 posted on 04/26/2020 9:02:29 AM PDT by Arones (When Leftists are in a minority, then they look for other ways to win.)
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To: CodeToad

Correct. What you ALWAYS see is a logistic “S” model.


50 posted on 04/26/2020 9:05:46 AM PDT by Arones (When Leftists are in a minority, then they look for other ways to win.)
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To: cgbg

If everyone wore REAL masks. But the governments are hoarding them for favored people. Bandannas and cloth masks are just theater.


51 posted on 04/26/2020 9:10:50 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: SmokingJoe

I’d say you’re the black helicopter type.


Another Free Traitor?

This virus and its release by China is real. I don’t consider that tinfoil. It is a biological, economic and political attack.

How America deals with it, and with China, is real.

Pretending it doesn’t exist or doesn’t act like viruses do, is tinfoil.

America will come back, and with NOT ONE RED CENT going to China.

Do you have a problem with that?


52 posted on 04/26/2020 9:11:11 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

This is the post you called tin foil hat.
The except everything in it is right.

” How did all those predictions become fact? I mean, people treat the “millions are going to die!” predictions as fact when they weren’t. They were meant to scare people into submission and it worked. They willingly destroyed their country.”


53 posted on 04/26/2020 9:21:06 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: malach

“If they had no influence then people like Trump would not be so bothered by them.”

Ha... ha... ha... ha... ha... ha... ha... ha... ha...

So you’re saying Trump is bothered by name calling.

Ha... ha... ha... ha... ha... ha... ha... ha... ha...

You crack me up. Trump comes up with some pretty creative nicknames for the scumbags. A lot of us have even better ones.

I say mock the pieces of crap til the cows come home and then take a short break and carry on.


54 posted on 04/26/2020 9:23:15 AM PDT by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
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To: CodeToad

Being quick to assume ignorance isn’t a sign of intelligence. At the front side of the curve, when we didn’t have a whole lot of data it was exponential.

It’s not a hard concept thank you. The data from NYC shows the same...and no it’s doesn’t have to go from 1000 to 1000000 in days, just progressive derivatives.

https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data.page

And my God - “silly measures”? People like you are reckless and are willing to risk everything for everyone. You have NO IDEA how bad this could’ve become without the “silly measures” - you talk from ignorance. Go tell that to NYC. How long did the crematoriums in Wuhan run 24/7? Why does China have draconian measures, to this day, to keep it under control.

Wake up...


55 posted on 04/26/2020 9:26:40 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Arones

You don’t see it at the national scale because it was diluted with curves from elsewhere.

The NYC data definitely shows non-linear growth at the beginning, especially the death rate.

https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data.page


56 posted on 04/26/2020 9:28:31 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: SmokingJoe

If you can’t follow the discussion, don’t join in.

But, yes, to look at what you posted, along with the rest of his screed, that is pure tinfoil.

I was countering his germ theory idiocy when he cranked out that spew.

There is a virus. It is real. We can already see that it acts very much like over 100 years of learning about disease tells us it would. To deny this is tinfoil.

As I stated to you, I do believe that this virus is part of what is also a political and economic attack from China.

This needs to be dealt with, but not by pretending that we don’t know how viruses operate.

America will come back, and with NOT ONE RED CENT going to China.

Do you have a problem with that?


57 posted on 04/26/2020 9:35:30 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: PeterPrinciple

By saying they want to flatten the curve, at least they are admitting there is a curve but their model ignores any factor that causes the curve in the first place.


58 posted on 04/26/2020 9:51:43 AM PDT by Seven_0 (You cannot fool all of the people, ever!)
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To: PAR35

The perfect is the enemy of the good.

Even if the masks are 40% effective, then they become much more effective if two people are wearing them.

In an imperfect world reasonable compromises make sense.

Perfection is irrelevant in such a world.


59 posted on 04/26/2020 10:11:50 AM PDT by cgbg (New poll: post elderly voters like Biden's experience as Wilson's VP fighting the Spanish Flu.)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

What was posted in #25 is exactly right. Fake predictions of 2.2 million dead were used to shutdown the US economy and put over 22 million (and counting) out of work.
That is FACT.
As for China, exactly how do you propose to totally stop trading with China?


60 posted on 04/26/2020 10:31:57 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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