Posted on 04/18/2020 7:20:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
“Did any of you ever attempt to pay a young cashier”
Yepper— last trip to my cardio guy I had to stop and PAY THE DEDUCTIBLE....$35 bucks...so I handed her a 50 and asked for a 10 and a 5 back.
The consternation that poor gal suffered talking to herself about 50/35/15 was comical....after 3/4 minutes or so my daughter was almost laughing out loud....watching this mental midget trying to figure out what to do...Thank goodness she was not in the medical portion of the office, just a ckerk...
“...when your system gets results by graduation on par with some African countries,”
You are correct. They don’t fool around about education in Africa.
I guess none of these kids have PARENTS.
Ah, but do understand the maths? (Are you British?). I ask because I too am a retired teacher and until a month ago regularly substituted at my old school. The way they teach simple addition and subtraction makes no sense to me. Well, it can make sense but to me it seems like taking something simple and making it so complex that my head spins.
I show them the way I was taught and I get a couple of responses: ‘Oh, that’s so much easier’ or ‘That’s the way my mom and dad do it when they help me’. But on some of the almighty test, getting the correct answer doesn’t give full credit. The kid has to draw twenty little boxes (you’ll likely know what I mean) to get credit.
“””Well, it can make sense but to me it seems like taking something simple and making it so complex that my head spins.”””
How true. I have concluded that it is intentional to make something simple complex. What better way to control people as they become adults.
On the other hand those people who learned the simple method of solving a problem can later use the that prior learning as they tackle more complex problems. If they have learned this way, they become very adept at explaining something complex in simple terms.
“OK, I’ll tell him he owes me $15.00, will he give me that amount? :)”
The odds are better than even you would get it.
I have concluded that it is intentional to make something simple complex. What better way to control people as they become adults.
Problem with that is, that the vast majority of humans don’t need or want to view math the way they do. They just want math as a tool to solve problems and, in my opinion rote memorization is the best way for most people to achieve that.
I got into teaching during the ‘New Math’ era of the late 60s/early 70s. I was supposed to teach 4th graders how to solve problems in base 6. It was a complete waste of everyone’s time. But we were pretty much forbidden to make them remember their times tables. It goes on today. Roughly half of the 8th graders I sub with require calculators to do problems like 8 x 7. If calculators are forbidden, they’ll either add eight seven times (and get it wrong half the time) or start working their fingers.
LOL.....losing a year of CommieCore math is actually a GOOD thing.
Hopefully, many are being taught old or old-new math, during this opportunistic time.
So here comes some more H1B trash
H1Bs are not on the whole any better at math, or anything else, than Americans - what they are is cheaper and more subservient.
They are much worse than Americans. H1Bs lie, they cheat, they have unverified education and experience, they have ringers that sit through interviews, they post interview tests and questions in Indian forums, when it comes to work, they are more racist and castist than even the Communist Chinese, as Indians only hire Indians and speak their foul Hindi language amongst each other to lock Americans out of important work related meetings. I can go on and on.
Communist Chinese are just as bad.
At least in the Philippines, my kids are learning the way I did in the 70s and 80s. None of this new age social justice crap. Just reading, writing and arithmetic.
And it will not be noticeable.
We are already doing that...during regular school days.
5x80 = ?
(5x8)ten = ?
40x10=?
?=400
Sad thing is she got the answer at step one using distribution property of multiplication. For full credit she has to solve following all steps
“The little boxes.” Oh my word, I know of what you speak. Some of her word problems are such a jumble of information.
Yes, I can see the logic of it, but alas, not the point. Since more than half of the kids (in my experience) don’t have their times tables by heart (I tell them they should know them as well as they know their names) then fractions are a difficult hurdle for them to overcome. Fractions used to be considered a 5th-grade skill. Well, we don’t use fractions that much in modern life, but understanding how fractions work are an important of algebra, for those who advance to it.
And, yes it is aggravating that the kid who can do the problem in her head, won’t get full credit and in fact may get the same credit as the kid who gets the wrong answer, but did the steps correctly.
My niece tells me that fractions will be introduced near the end of term. Just got through finding area of irregular shapes. More then one outburst of tears during that experience, along with quite the headache.
By missing Common Core Math?
I think they are going to come out further ahead than ever.
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