Posted on 04/16/2020 6:02:31 AM PDT by Theoria
Kinda makes one wonder how serious the information in those reports are.
Does everyone here realize ProPublica is Soros funded?
Talk about itchy trigger fingers....
https://www.propublica.org/supporters
Look through the list of “contributors”,how many are tied to Soros?
Apparently “national security” trumps justice, civil rights, and the Constitution, just as the Founding Fathers intended.
And WTC7 was a controlled demolition, as proven by the University of Alaska civil engineers, in their recent years-long evaluation/final report, disproving the NTSC nonsense.
9/11 has large hidden secrets that the. fedgov refuses to release.
Who were the Americans that were instrumentally complicit in the 9/11 attacks? Who had the explosives installed that brought down the Twin Towers? Who had all of the gold removed that was kept in the Twin Towers vaults days prior to the attacks and where is that gold now? A.G. Barr knows!
Yes, and did you know that a plane did not hit the Pentagon?
Then maybe you can tell me why they are trying to “recoup monetary gains” after 19 years if it is such an important issue a generation later. It’s just a scam to make money and they are trying to use sensitive information to do it even when they don’t need it. No better than slavery reparations. And again, they have everything they need and have had it for years. They’re fishing for other settlements whether it exists or not. And they shouldn’t use national security to hunt for them. This is not a discovery, it’s a ambulance chase.
rwood
“The default setting should always be to release the information.”
This would completely destroy the work of the government. Let’s put the shoe on another foot. Would you be willing to release your medical records or your family’s? How about your tax information, paycheck stub, bank account or visa numbers, your social security number, your companies operation numbers and info....all of this, and more relates to information.
That’s what you’re asking them to do only it isn’t theirs, it’s yours for you. And the safety and security of thousands of people will be compromised upon release of sensitive information. I would think this takes precedence over a 20 year old sudden need for a lawsuit in a fishing expedition.
rwood
Because if America was told what the Saudis REALLY did, they would demand a nuclear strike on them.
I will be happy to release my twenty year old medical records if the intelligence agencies release their twenty year old material—fair trade!
Only if you haven't been paying attention. Apparently Barr is just fine with shooting a woman in the head while she's holding her infant daughter, since he gave pro-bono legal help to Lon Hourchi. Some of us haven't forgotten.
Because 'our' government has chosen not to produce US taxpayer documents. Monetary gains is the only way at this point to hold the Sauds accountable for anything. The US government has repeatably chosen to look the other way concerning a criminal or military response.
“This would completely destroy the work of the government.”
At this point about 80% needs to be destroyed.
L
I mentioned active things not inactive. The information they are asking for is still sensitive. Twenty year old medical records were not in the post I sent. Referencing current ones were.
Fair trade? Hardly. Information in government files can create problems. Your 20 year old medical record probably won’t. Your credit history and your personal numbers most likely will for you. Releasing files from sensitive areas will cause problems, possibly death, to many. All for a money hungry lawsuit that the info they have already will suffice.
This is the reason information is stored safely because people don’t know what can happen to it when released. And as the suit has nothing to do with the US, or the people that store the information,and since those people have nothing to gain or lose, then you give me a reason why it should be released because I just gave you some as to why it should not.
rwood
The details matter.
Twenty year old sources and methods are usually not secret.
If there is a specific source that needs to be protected, then Barr should simply state that there is a source or sources that are still living that need to be protected.
If there is a method that needs to be protected Barr need only say there is a method still in use that needs to be protected.
But—he should at _least_ attempt to give a reason, and be prepared to defend it before a judge in a secret proceeding.
I think building 7’s collapse was a preventative failsafe collapse to keep presumed enemies from gaining vital secrets should New York had suffered some sort of Nuke or other devastating attack....like the Trade Center bombing. One copy of our Constitution in DC for example is supposed to drop down a special shoot in DC incase of attack for protection. I think it was something simple as that.
I agree. This “people of the government by the government and for the government “ bullsh** HAS TO STOP.
You can’t throw out the baby with the bathwater.
You got the best thing going in the world and you think 80% of it should be tossed? Maybe you should talk to the 31.3 million legal and 11.9 illegal immigrants that gave up everything to get here since 1990 alone.
Ever heard the phrase for your own protection? Used all the time in government and court cases. You as a citizen hired them by your vote to make those decisions for you. Your parents voted in the people that made rules along with grandparents that made some too. You don’t like the rules, work at getting them changed. But I can’t come to a conclusion why information that is twenty years old means anything to a case so unimportant it was filed 20 years later. This is a political game, not a harmless case. It has no purpose. And all it can do is harm to many people not involved with the case. And even if they sue Saudi and win, are they going to collect? It is doubtful if not impossible. They are not under our laws.
rwood
“But—he should at _least_ attempt to give a reason, and be prepared to defend it before a judge in a secret proceeding.”
He did give a reason...it’s sensitive material. The lowest level of clearance to gain information like this is confidential and is define as:
The type of security clearance that provides access to information that may cause damage to national security if disclosed without authorization.
Lives fall under that definition. Secret and top secret and their levels are even more sensitive. And whose to say someone hasn’t already been before a federal judge. That is not mentioned in the article.
There are a lot of files stored/hidden in the US that can cause a variety of problems from trade embargoes, to wars, to deaths. This is why they are stored. To keep the people, the lawyers, and the idiot media out of them.
rwood
“You got the best thing going in the world and you think 80% of it should be tossed?”
Yep. I’ve got a handy list, too.
L
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