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Mysterious Heart Damage, Not Just Lung Troubles, Befalling COVID-19 Patients
Kaiser Health News ^ | Apr 6, 2020 | Markian Hawryluk

Posted on 04/06/2020 4:27:53 AM PDT by DannyTN

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To: DannyTN

leading to heart failure and death even among those who show no signs of respiratory distress.


This fits a bunch of anecdotal - and even specific testimony by doctors - evidence we’ve been seeing. It also explains the much-stronger-than-the-flu link to hypertension seen in the Italy study that was widely reported.

This coronavirus kills a lot of folks that the flu wouldn’t.


61 posted on 04/06/2020 6:12:40 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: PapaBear3625
This is why treatment needs to start at the first symptoms. If you wait until the patient’s lungs and heart are damaged, then you’ve waited too long.

Viral infection is a race between the reproduction rate of the virus, versus the body’s ramping up of antibody production. If you can disrupt the virus’s reproduction rate in the early stage (through hydroxychloroquine plus zinc plus azithromycin), then you give the immune system extra time to ramp up.

Bingo!

62 posted on 04/06/2020 6:15:00 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: lepton

You are incorrect. ARDS can be cause by any viral agent. You are higher risk with more comorbidities. I have seen an awful lot of non CoVId cases in my time influenza and other respiratory tract infection where the risk is heart disease and leads to the exact same pathology and pathophysiology.


63 posted on 04/06/2020 6:16:42 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: SmokingJoe

So heart disease which has been around for thousands of years, is now the fault of coronavirus?
Give me a break!
What did these fools do before the cronavirus hysteria was manufactured?


Wow. You’re just looking for any way possible to distort what is said and refuse an understanding of what is going on - well beyond merely declining an hysterical over-reaction.


64 posted on 04/06/2020 6:16:47 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: null and void

I will go you one further null.... until there is a vaccine high risk individuals should be on prophylaxis with plaquenil.

I am guessing there are a whole lot of front line docs taking plaquenil according to the royal college of India protocol.


65 posted on 04/06/2020 6:18:31 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: nuconvert

“So now, along with permanent lung damage, this virus may cause permanent heart damage. Not good.”

Maybe not permanent. What I experienced in January was like a tearing of the heart muscle when I exerted. Rather painful and bewildering to experience that. Ten weeks later the heart muscle is still recovering. It’s a different pain from the quad bypass pain. Duller and wider. Magnesium, potassium and vitamin E supplements have really helped the healing.

The best comparison I can make is it’s like a tearing a hamstring. The pain is deep and lingering. It slowly subsides but exertion flares it back. Three steps forward, one step back type of healing.


66 posted on 04/06/2020 6:20:00 AM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: Travis McGee

I’ll tell you what. Why don’t you and Danny from TN go find a nice I populated area declare independence and stop bothering the rest of us.
Meanwhile in NY deaths are down and there was a ton of discharges from the hospitals in NYC this weekend.

But let’s look at a village in remote Ecuador to fear monger.


67 posted on 04/06/2020 6:20:54 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: Mom MD

It’s. it new and it’s not 1 in 5 patients.


Yeah, for a broader audience it definitely needs a qualifier regarding 1-in-5 of what.


68 posted on 04/06/2020 6:21:05 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Candor7

“HHS has access to 10 million doses of the drug. Where is the beef?”

From what I’ve been reading, a major argument against handing out hydroxychloroquine to almost anyone (which is what more & more of the general public seem to think should be done) is that it causes a shortage for people who are currently relying on it daily for malaria, Lupus, arthritis, etc. If a million people want the drug for COVID-19 illness, that 10 million doses won’t go far.


69 posted on 04/06/2020 6:22:01 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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To: wastoute

I think you’re right about that Doc.

But I’d be afraid to take a steroid with such an aggressive virus.
HX AMI 2018, DM2.

Although, I do like steroids for my arthritis.


70 posted on 04/06/2020 6:22:21 AM PDT by David Chase
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To: Justa

There probably plueriitic pain


71 posted on 04/06/2020 6:22:25 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: billyboy15

Really? If so why is the media making a big deal of it just now?


Well, the obvious reason was that they were busy calling everything a pre-condition.


72 posted on 04/06/2020 6:23:21 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: billyboy15

Know a lot of Doctors, do ya?


73 posted on 04/06/2020 6:23:58 AM PDT by David Chase
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To: nuconvert

Amazingly, more can be made.


74 posted on 04/06/2020 6:23:59 AM PDT by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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To: dp0622

Your lack of compassion speaks volumes and I’m not a fearper


75 posted on 04/06/2020 6:24:42 AM PDT by MadLibDisease (Proudly residing in Dar-al-Harb since 1959)
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To: Justa

I believe what you’re describing is different from what the article is talking about.


76 posted on 04/06/2020 6:26:39 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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To: petitfour

“Amazingly, more can be made.”

If it were that easy, Trump wouldn’t be asking the Indians to share their supply.


77 posted on 04/06/2020 6:28:35 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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To: gas_dr

Guayaquil, Ecuador is not a “remote village.” It’s a city of 3 million, and the biggest port on the west coast of South America, “The Gateway to the Pacific Rim” for that continent.

I posted #58 as a stark and grim contrast to what is happening in a First World city with proper medical infrastructure in place.

Guayaquil is what happens when Covid-19 runs wild in 3rd World slums with nearly no modern medical infrastructure.

Do you get the contrast between situations? It’s the same virus, dropped into 2 different environments.

Why do you mock the comparison? Are you incapable of learning from different situations?

Are you really a physician?

Do you mock poor patients who can’t afford treatment, and kick them to the curb, the way you mock the dying and suffering in Guayaquil?

And what happens in Guayaquil may be setting up a pattern for all of South America and the Third World.

But you don’t give a s#it, evidently, as long as your county is doing okay.


78 posted on 04/06/2020 6:28:59 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: gas_dr

No, definitely not plueriitic pain. It came in with the ‘mystery virus’ and was one of two symptoms that led me to call 911. In the hospital they said the virus was attacking my lungs, heart and other organs and that my heart was swollen. A heart stress chemical that is normally 0.009 in the blood measured 1.9. So they recorded an MI in my condition. Any exertion made it feel like the heart was tearing. It’s much improved since getting out but it’s like a badly torn muscle. So I take it easy and rest often.


79 posted on 04/06/2020 6:29:00 AM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: DannyTN

Pneumonia drills holes into the heart...


80 posted on 04/06/2020 6:29:28 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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