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The Dow is set to open lower following 11% surge as White House, Senate reach deal on stimulus
CNBC.com ^ | March 25, 2020 | Fred Imbert

Posted on 03/25/2020 5:09:48 AM PDT by John W

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1 posted on 03/25/2020 5:09:48 AM PDT by John W
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To: John W

Of course.


2 posted on 03/25/2020 5:11:55 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: John W

Nice timing.... at 7:13am Central, Dow Futures are actually slightly up....


3 posted on 03/25/2020 5:13:36 AM PDT by Nabber
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To: John W

Futures back up to slightly positive levels.


4 posted on 03/25/2020 5:14:22 AM PDT by rstrahan
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To: John W

Today will be short-seller day. It would not surprise me for the Dow to drop by 900+ today. That seems to be the prevailing pattern.


5 posted on 03/25/2020 5:16:36 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Prayers up for Rush Limbaugh...)
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To: FlipWilson

Yep. he question is, how much will it go down. This sort of thing is always a two steps forward, one step back thing. Or one step forward, two steps back. ;)


6 posted on 03/25/2020 5:19:13 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: John W

Until 1) We know when we are going back to work and 2) how businesses and consumers will spend and invest when we do re-open (and the longer this goes, the less they will), stocks will continue the trend down, possibly by a lot. Even with this big decline, P/E ratios on a normalized basis are not high. And who knows if we get back to normal anytime soon.


7 posted on 03/25/2020 5:22:19 AM PDT by rb22982
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Yep. The question is, how much will it go down.

The Soros types and the other short-sellers will slither in and drop it by 900+.

8 posted on 03/25/2020 5:25:56 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Prayers up for Rush Limbaugh...)
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To: John W

Gas falling further here, one location 1.08/gal. Cov-19 swimming in the water.
Amazon employees test positive, several locations.


9 posted on 03/25/2020 5:27:50 AM PDT by Varsity Flight (QE 2020. All Quiet on the Western Front)
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To: ScottinVA

Combination of shorts as well as those locking in gains. There is a lot of uncertainty from here on where earnings will shake out on the back end of this.


10 posted on 03/25/2020 5:33:38 AM PDT by rb22982
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“Buy on rumor, sell on facts”


11 posted on 03/25/2020 5:45:04 AM PDT by stockpirate (Anyone who believes Epstein killed himself is a fool, the DNC wacked Seth Rich)
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To: Varsity Flight

$1.29 in Joplin. 99 cents in OKC. Cheapest I could find on Gas Buddy.


12 posted on 03/25/2020 5:58:00 AM PDT by donozark (Sam Walton: It was paper when we started, and it's paper afterward.)
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To: ScottinVA
Bought about $1000 worth of YANG and SQQQ (reverse index funds) yesterday just slightly above the day's low. If it tanks, I will be happy because the rest of what I own will continue to rebound.

If the market tanks and these two go up, I'll cash in and buy back more on the next rebound with the profits. The government will make about three cents in taxes when I sell. That will go a long way toward repaying the recovery stimulus.

13 posted on 03/25/2020 5:59:20 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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You want to short about three days after this “15 day “ pause.

That is when the case count will go back up. The markets will scream, “You promised!!!!” Like a six year old girl.

Then it will drop another 10%.


14 posted on 03/25/2020 6:05:44 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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Will you let me know how it works out FRiend? I’ve been mulling over trying to use SOQQ to make a few bucks to replenish some of my portfolio losses.


15 posted on 03/25/2020 6:20:33 AM PDT by Mr Fuji
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So of course it opens up.


16 posted on 03/25/2020 6:36:54 AM PDT by John W (Trump/Pence 2020)
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Yeah, definitely rallying at the moment. We;ll see how long the stimulus momentum carries on.


17 posted on 03/25/2020 6:39:58 AM PDT by Mr Fuji
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No need for me to let you know. You can look these two up and see for yourself. Schwab, TD Ameritrade and Fidelity all offer commission free internet trading. There may be others as well. I have done this more than once on the market rebounds since all this $#*+ started.

There may be others which perform better, but I've had these two for a long time as a sort of portfolio insurance, though clearly not enough when TSHTF as it has done recently. As you may know, they do not allow you to do short sales with IRAs, but no prohibition whatsoever against buying reverse index funds.

18 posted on 03/25/2020 6:41:38 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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Do you only hold SQQQ for the part of the day and sell it off before the end of the trading day? I’ve been reading up on leveraged ETFs and most say not to hold overnight as a general rule.

FWIW, I have both IRA and regular brokerage accounts.


19 posted on 03/25/2020 7:07:52 AM PDT by Mr Fuji
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Not usually. I set targets which usually take a day or more to meet. I always keep a share or more in case they institute rules of sales only to existing shareholders and, yes, I reinvest dividends to establish that pattern of "loyalty". These days, because the market is so volatile, I set day expiration orders only rather than GTC.

In a non-IRA account, as you may know, three or more orders which get filled the same day will trigger the pattern day trader rule and cause the government Nazis to suspend your account. They try to tell you this is for your own protection, but it is really for the protection of the professional day traders since is doesn't apply to accounts worth over $25,000. They really do not like little guys like me picking up an occasional $50, $100 or $200 a week (under normal conditions) or per day (under current conditions).

20 posted on 03/25/2020 7:28:27 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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