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New York is losing residents at an alarming rate
nypost ^ | 12/30/2019 | Carl Campanile

Posted on 12/31/2019 6:15:05 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

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To: woodbutcher1963

Sounds like you’re a good candidate for a renovation into a two family. There are many of them going on where I live...without permission from the government. You can always ‘rent out rooms’.


41 posted on 12/31/2019 6:59:05 AM PST by MSF BU
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To: woodbutcher1963

That likely won’t be the case for much longer.


42 posted on 12/31/2019 7:01:28 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

What’s ‘alarming’ is that they are taking their sickness to other healthier states.


43 posted on 12/31/2019 7:09:27 AM PST by tinyowl
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To: mewzilla

I grew up in Orchard Park, NY. I left in 85 after going to SUNY colleges. All my siblings left NY. Almost all my neighborhood friends left too. There were not a lot of opportunities in upstate NY in the 1980’s.

Cuomo made fracking illegal. There is so much natural gas in upstate NY that there are places in my home town where it literally leaks out of the ground between the shale rock in a waterfall. They call it the Eternal Flame at Chestnut Ridge Park.

I knew a couple kids I went to high school with that had natural gas wells on their property. Pretty much anywhere you sink a well south of Buffalo, Rochester and Syracuse you have a good chance of hitting natural gas.

PA, OH and WV have all benefitted greatly from the natural gas fracking boom. Yet, NY state refuses to do it because of STUPID LIBERALS in Albany and NYC.

That is why most of NY State north of Westchester County has wanted to beak away from the downstate area for 40 years.


44 posted on 12/31/2019 7:11:36 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: woodbutcher1963
Sunapee is a good example as well.
45 posted on 12/31/2019 7:12:11 AM PST by MSF BU
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Maybe that’s the wisdom of the electoral college.

States with poor policy lose population, and consequently lose representation in the house – and power.


46 posted on 12/31/2019 7:12:21 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: MSF BU

Looking for new nests to foul.


47 posted on 12/31/2019 7:13:22 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: zerosix

I’ve seen a description of the “exit tax” here in NJ, and it isn’t actually a tax; I believe the state wants to ensure all the rightful taxes (income, property?) are paid, and you are refunded anything due to you afterwards.


48 posted on 12/31/2019 7:14:50 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: dfwgator
Looking for new nests to foul.

I think the bad news for those of us left and the good news for others is the people leaving are from upstate, no jobs due to statist government decline and they aren't in the cities sucking from the teet of government welfare and have no interest of leaving.

49 posted on 12/31/2019 7:15:14 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: mewzilla

The one thing that NH has going for it is the lack of a broad based tax. The parasite class cannot exist really without those taxes. Texas did themselves a huge favor by essentially making income taxes impossible in that state.


50 posted on 12/31/2019 7:18:55 AM PST by MSF BU
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To: woodbutcher1963

That is a big problem here in NJ: Few people want large single-family detached homes anymore. If they can legally convert them to multi-families, they sell; if not, they sit - or someone buys it and illegally converts it.

It isn’t just a function of high property taxes (which tenants pay indirectly anyway); it is also a reflection of the number of people who never intend to have children, as well as the low number of people who believe their jobs - or a worthwhile substitute - will still be around in thirty years. The remaining American homebuyers are mostly public employees; they are mostly indifferent to those dynamics, and among Americans, still seem to have the most children.


51 posted on 12/31/2019 7:19:37 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: NEMDF

The only thing that half saves IL is tax free retirement. If they tax that many will leave.


52 posted on 12/31/2019 7:24:35 AM PST by Oldexpat (Jobs Not Mobs)
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To: mewzilla

Respectfully, you are wrong. Our high property taxes are roughly 90% to fund your local school system. If you want to build a new addition to your local high school, etc you vote on it locally. It has to pass by a 60% majority.
If you want to add a astroturf field to the high school, we voted on it locally.

School budgets get voted on locally. It is up to the local population to approve or vote against any warrant articles.

The reason these other communities have such a low tax rate is that their tax base is from housing that is seasonal. People who go to their vacation home. They do not have children in the local school. They are doctors in Boston who own a lake front vacation home. Their children go to school somewhere else.

The other main group of home owners are retirees. No kids at all. It does not cost a lot of money to pave and plow the roads. The majority of local taxes goes to fund the local school system.


53 posted on 12/31/2019 7:24:42 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: 1Old Pro

New York has plenty of fools. Just saw Robert Wolf on Fox news show. What a fool!


54 posted on 12/31/2019 7:26:42 AM PST by chopperk (ms)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

It’s the taxes - state and local. Living in a middle class house, you pay taxes on, every month, forever, like you are renting it from the government.


55 posted on 12/31/2019 7:32:21 AM PST by PGR88
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To: MSF BU

That would not be allowed at my residence.
However, what people are starting to do around the more rural parts of NH are renting on Air B n B.
I was thinking of building a TREE HOUSE up on the back hill. Put in a chemical toilet or holding tank. I figure if I make it look really cute, I can get $150-200/night.

I know a woman who owns two small homes up on a mountainside she rents for $200/night. She started with one. Two years later, she bought the neighbors house.

One of the guys I work with just bought his third house. The first and second house are both rented long term.
The third is about a 5 minute walk to York Beach , ME.
The exact same house next door is rented for the entire summer at $4000/week. His plan is to live in this house in the off season and rent it in the summer. It will pay for itself. He also has a travel trailer he has on a lake in central NH to stay at during the summer. This guy started with one house about 15 years ago.


56 posted on 12/31/2019 7:37:12 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I just came back from NYC a few days ago and I just can’t describe how filthy and trash strewn it was. Pot smoke waifs on almost every block and bums sleep on every subway grate. Signs on singular trees noting poison applied for rats.


57 posted on 12/31/2019 7:39:03 AM PST by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I just came back from NYC a few days ago and I just can’t describe how filthy and trash strewn it was. Pot smoke waifs on almost every block and bums sleep on every subway grate. Signs on singular trees noting poison applied for rats.


58 posted on 12/31/2019 7:39:03 AM PST by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: MSF BU

Yes, Sunapee is another example. However, houses around Sunapee tend to be more expensive because you can also rent them on Air BnB in the winter because of the ski resort.

There are not a lot of hotels around Mount Sunapee. There is no ski in ski out either because it is a state park.


59 posted on 12/31/2019 7:40:43 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I’d crush all the tapes/CDs I have of her but that was already done during the Bush years


60 posted on 12/31/2019 7:41:35 AM PST by kanawa (Trump Loves a Great Deal (NorthernSentinel))
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