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Atatiana Jefferson pointed gun at window before Fort Worth officer killed her, nephew said
Dallas News ^ | 10/15/19 | Dana Branham

Posted on 10/15/2019 12:39:14 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

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To: Twink

Locally we had two very similar events this week.

The cops reacted the way I described.

The only difference is that really bad guys were involved and they ended up dead after a considerable amount of time was spent attempting to negotiate a solution.

But it demonstrated that properly trained cops do not shoot people before they know who is what.


181 posted on 10/16/2019 6:10:46 AM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so terrible, so disgraceful, that the federal government can not make worse)
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To: NorthMountain

Im this state, as in most, the courts take the position that you can not plead self defense if you are in you home and the bad guy is still outside your home.

Many a person has gone to jail for shooting through the door (outside door) at a person who has not yet breached the door.

So the answer to your question is that she would have been tried and convicted in almost all states. Texas is different and a Texan will need to answer for Texas.


182 posted on 10/16/2019 7:24:49 AM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so terrible, so disgraceful, that the federal government can not make worse)
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To: sport

Maybe we need to expend more effort to preserve it?

Why hope it lasts only until you die?? Do you have children?

We have the tools to turn things around, first in the Gospel and secondly in our own families. Most conservatives and Christians are still turning them over to the Enemy (government schools). We can all contribute something in both these areas


183 posted on 10/16/2019 7:54:24 AM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: old curmudgeon
the courts take the position that you can not plead self defense if you are in you home and the bad guy is still outside your home.

What position do they take when the bad guy is outside your home aiming a gun at you through the window?

184 posted on 10/16/2019 9:26:56 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

I have not read of such a case, but it would be interesting. If you know of one, please give us the link.

However, my gut feeling is that in my state the LEO’s would take the position that you should get away from the window and call 911.

That does not represent my opinion so knock off the flames.


185 posted on 10/16/2019 9:32:21 AM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so terrible, so disgraceful, that the federal government can not make worse)
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To: old curmudgeon
We're discussing such a case. Problem is, the bad guy did the shooting, and killed the innocent citizen.

in my state the LEO’s would take the position

In most states, the official "LEO" position is that mere "civilians" should curl up in a fetal position, let the bad guys murder, rape, and rob them, then call the skilled trained professionals (hah!) to take a report.

And you don't seem to know what "flames" are ...

186 posted on 10/16/2019 9:42:53 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

The law in most states is clear that you can not shoot a person just because he is in your back yard.

The way the question was framed, the occupant of the house would have shot first. Therefore there was no immediate threat and the shot would have been unjustified.

Now on the other hand, had the shooter in the yard shot and missed, I suspect that self defense would be a justified position. However what would happen in court would be a crap shoot, pun not intended.

I suspect a hot shot prosecutor would take the position that the shooter missed and that all the homeowner needed to do is get away from the window and call for help.

Remember, Nyfong was not the only unscrupulous prosecutor.


187 posted on 10/16/2019 10:33:51 AM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so terrible, so disgraceful, that the federal government can not make worse)
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To: Twink

So in your tiny bootlicking mind this woman was a low life? She was shot dead in her own home by an idiot who never announced himself or why he was there. I keep forgetting that there is a group on here who believe anyone who is black, Hispanic, Asian or non Anglo must be a low life, and all cops are fine upstanding citizens who must be worshiped and given all benefit of the doubt.


188 posted on 10/16/2019 12:46:34 PM PDT by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: Twink
Hmm. Maybe quit making excuses for low lifes?

exactly who are you describing as a “lowlife “? . Please, tell us. Who are you calling a lowlife and please be specific as to why.

189 posted on 10/17/2019 4:45:18 AM PDT by southern rock
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