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USCIS Policy Manual Update (Citizenship)
www.uscis.gov ^ | 08.28.2019 | uscis

Posted on 08/28/2019 1:08:58 PM PDT by rxsid

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1 posted on 08/28/2019 1:08:58 PM PDT by rxsid
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To: LucyT; bitt
Ping!

USCIS Policy Manual Update

2 posted on 08/28/2019 1:09:49 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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Main initial take-away from this update:

Clarify that temporary visits to the U.S. do not establish U.S. residence;
Explain the distinction between residence and physical presence in the United States;

Should significantly reduce "birth tourism."

3 posted on 08/28/2019 1:11:27 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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Next Step:

NO MORE BASTARDIZTION OF THE 14TH AMENDMENT!

Original intent of the 14th Amendment
Senator Jacob Howard (served on the Senate Joint Committee on Reconstruction, which drafted the 14th) clearly spelled out the intent of the 14th Amendment by stating:

"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."

https://www.14thamendment.us/birthright_citizenship/original_intent.html

Sen. Lyman Trumbull, Chairman of the Judiciary Committee, author of the Thirteenth Amendment, and the one who inserted the phrase (All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the States wherein they reside):

[T]he provision is, that 'all persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens.' That means 'subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof.' What do we mean by 'complete jurisdiction thereof?' Not owing allegiance to anybody else. That is what it means.

Sen. W. Williams:

I understand the words here, 'subject to the jurisdiction of the United States,' to mean fully and completely subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

https://www.14thamendment.us/articles/anchor_babies_unconstitutionality.html

Senator Jacob Howard states the intent of the Fourteenth Amendment published in the Congressional Record May 30, 1866.
https://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llcg&fileName=073/llcg073.db&recNum=11

We have, at a minimum, 3 different Senators who were involved in drafting the 14th Amendment, stating on record in Congress that subject to the jurisdiction can not, does not, apply to foreigners or aliens (even if here legally).

The only thing missing for correcting the wrong introduced in the 1960's, is political will. We must do the right thing, and return to original intent of the 14th!.

4 posted on 08/28/2019 1:12:14 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

U.S. laws allow children to acquire U.S. citizenship other than through birth in the United States. Children who were born outside of the United States to a U.S. citizen parent or parents may acquire U.S. citizenship at birth under INA 301 or 309.
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If laws and forms are required for you to have citizenship or your parent(s) are foreign nationals and you are born with more than one nationality, you are by definition, not naturally a citizen.


5 posted on 08/28/2019 1:19:29 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: rxsid

Another day, another loophole closed.

This Administration has been working diligently.


6 posted on 08/28/2019 1:25:58 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo

It’s impressive how much the President has managed to get done in the face of opposition from both parties.

They had us on the road to North Mexico and he is single-handedly trying to turn this bus around.

We need to give him a Congress that supports enforcement.
We will never get it from Bush League Republicans.


7 posted on 08/28/2019 1:40:26 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: rxsid

IF you are here illegally then, you are visiting temporarily and unlawfully...

Problem clarified and solved


8 posted on 08/28/2019 1:49:42 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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To: rxsid

“Should significantly reduce “birth tourism.”

BINGO. There was a Daily Mail article how Chinese and Russian pregnant “visitors” would time giving birth here intentionally. I know most green-card holders (I did previously) who religiously know the 6-month outside of the US limit. Heck, I personally know 2 who were not allowed back in the US for staying outside of the US past 6 months because they were warned not to..


9 posted on 08/28/2019 1:51:03 PM PDT by max americana (Fired ONE libtard at work at every election since 2008 because I enjoy it. I hope every lib die.)
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To: rxsid

MAGA!


10 posted on 08/28/2019 2:18:29 PM PDT by Farcesensitive
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To: rxsid
The way that it's written, it is somewhat of a puzzle. But...

"Who This Policy Update Affects

This policy may affect children residing outside the United States who were born outside the United States...
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And other conditions, of course. My point is that it doesn't affect children born in the United States.

11 posted on 08/28/2019 4:06:50 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: rxsid

We also have to retroactively revoke all of the citizenship granted under false pretenses SINCE the 1960s.


12 posted on 08/28/2019 4:33:09 PM PDT by ichabod1 (He's a vindictive SOB but he's *our* vindictive SOB.)
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Apparently this does not affect heels-up Harris. She’s still ineligible to be POTUS. But doubt she’ll make it to the primaries. What a nasty person.


13 posted on 08/28/2019 4:34:13 PM PDT by upchuck (If democrats would stop shooting people gun violence would drop by 90% ~ h/t Mr K.)
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To: rxsid
"Should significantly reduce "birth tourism."

How? Since it applies to: "U.S. government employees and members of the U.S. armed forces who are employed or stationed outside the United States"

14 posted on 08/28/2019 4:38:01 PM PDT by mlo
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To: upchuck
"Apparently this does not affect heels-up Harris. She’s still ineligible to be POTUS. But doubt she’ll make it to the primaries. What a nasty person."

She may be nasty but she was born in Oakland so she's eligible.

15 posted on 08/28/2019 4:40:28 PM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo

neither parent a citizen bro


16 posted on 08/28/2019 5:00:19 PM PDT by ichabod1 (He's a vindictive SOB but he's *our* vindictive SOB.)
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To: upchuck

Such a nyasssssty woman. . . her and Ilhan “I Married My Bro” Omar. And Rashida and the Tlaib-an.


17 posted on 08/28/2019 5:01:36 PM PDT by ichabod1 (He's a vindictive SOB but he's *our* vindictive SOB.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
If laws and forms are required for you to have citizenship or your parent(s) are foreign nationals and you are born with more than one nationality, you are by definition, not naturally a citizen

That isn’t true, and here’s my own case in point.

I was born in the England at RAF Lakenheath. My father is a U.S. citizen, but my mother is a British subject. I have both a British birth certificate, and a “Record of an American Born Abroad” from the Embassy.

I effectively have dual citizenship, although I don’t exercise my British, at one point I did use a British and American passports. The trick was that I couldn’t use the British one when arriving to or from a U.S. territory.

I believe certain countries, like the Philippines take a very different view if one of the parents is a Filipino citizen, and that there were some service who had a bit of challenge with getting their kids out of country.

18 posted on 08/28/2019 6:48:41 PM PDT by voicereason (The RNC is like the "One-night stand" you wish you could forget.)
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To: voicereason

Sorry, you’re not eligible to be President.


19 posted on 08/28/2019 6:53:32 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: voicereason

I was born in the England at RAF Lakenheath. My father is a U.S. citizen, but my mother is a British subject. I have both a British birth certificate, and a “Record of an American Born Abroad” from the Embassy.


Intersting. The RAF has landed in Jacksonville FL. Bunch of them are training up ri,ght now on the new Boeing anti-submarine aircraft they will be getting next year. It was amusing to see those RAF air crew in their flight suits at my local grocery store today.


20 posted on 08/28/2019 6:54:11 PM PDT by lodi90
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