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What If Colleges Used Only Test Scores to Fill Campuses?
Wall Street Journal ^ | June 23, 2019 | Douglas Belkin

Posted on 06/23/2019 5:55:34 AM PDT by reaganaut1

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To: HangnJudge
unless you are going for engineering, law, or medicine, Some variant on STEM discipline, I just don’t think college is necessary any more.

I guess I'm in the minority in that I went to college, not to train for a job, but to get an education. I just wanted to learn stuff.

My degree is in History and for a while I seriously entertained the thought of going to grad school, getting my PhD, then attending Diesel Driving Academy and driving a truck for a living.

21 posted on 06/23/2019 6:34:32 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: bk1000

Stupid is easier to control


22 posted on 06/23/2019 6:36:58 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (nicdip.com)
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To: reaganaut1

Perhaps minority graduation rates would increase if they attended schools that better match their abilities.


23 posted on 06/23/2019 6:39:56 AM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: reaganaut1

it would be a godsend. Those who are smart and capable deserve the better things in life - the rest of ya’ll can pour over your scriptures and rote memorization along with every charm, prayer and phony blessing you want.

The Spoils go to the Victors.

If prayer isn’t working, I suggest good old fashioned hard work and effort.


24 posted on 06/23/2019 6:40:08 AM PDT by CharleysPride (Peace, Freedom and Prosperity. Thank you, President Trump.)
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To: Skooz

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Santayana

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it”

The Discipline of History is a powerful lens in which to understand the present, how do you know where you are going, until you know where you have been?


25 posted on 06/23/2019 6:43:04 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: CharleysPride

...Those who are smart and capable deserve the better things in life

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noblesse_oblige

To those to whom much is given, is much required
To obligation of “Gift” is to honor the gift
To use it wisely
To Honor the Giver of the Gift

The obligation of the Gifted is to Serve


26 posted on 06/23/2019 6:48:37 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: semimojo
IQ is a test score.

Mrs Dearolddad and I had a friend with a very high IQ. He had a tough time remembering to tie his shoes.

27 posted on 06/23/2019 6:49:18 AM PDT by dearolddad
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To: reaganaut1

We surely can’t allow a system that would benefit white males, that would be “racist”.


28 posted on 06/23/2019 6:49:55 AM PDT by euram (is)
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I wonder how this would come out if you normed it for income. For instance, look at only affluent test takers and weigh so minority’s are in the sample proportional to their population percentage.


29 posted on 06/23/2019 6:50:43 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: Alberta's Child
Who cares if someone has an IQ of 150 if they can't even tell you how many amendments are in the Bill of Rights?

Or, by the same token, they can tell you how many amendments there are, but not what they are and how they function in a constitutional sense.

30 posted on 06/23/2019 6:55:14 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: reaganaut1

WHITE MALE REPARATIONS!
FOR THE LIVING VICTIMS!
NOW!


31 posted on 06/23/2019 6:56:08 AM PDT by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: reaganaut1

” I don’t think SAT/ACT test scores alone should be used”

It should be the sole criteria.

There is no better measure of educational achievement than a measure of KNOWLEDGE.

There are thousands of kids today who graduate HS with a 4.0+ GPA that are objectively stupid. But they’ve been told their entire lives that if they focus, work hard and play by the rules they can he YOUR heart surgeon. Or your 737 pilot.

With an IQ of 91.

Our entire society has been reworked to enable these kids to achieve the pinnacles of success.

IMHO it’s one of the few major contributors to the downfall of Western Civilization.


32 posted on 06/23/2019 6:58:34 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: reaganaut1

If only the highest test scores were admitted, SJW departments would completely disappear.


33 posted on 06/23/2019 6:58:43 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Oldexpat

Exactly. The original merit measure. And it did a lot of that. Now those who rose by merit not surprisingly tend to be clustered in the upper income and upper middle class. As a result it looks like the SAT is less merit-based than it is. The skewing toward higher incomes for their offspring is actually a sign of it having worked, not it being unfair.


34 posted on 06/23/2019 6:58:47 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Alberta's Child
Who cares if someone has an IQ of 150 if they can't even tell you how many amendments are in the Bill of Rights?

It seems that’s the point of college. Anyone can remember 10 but you need some intelligence to learn and retain multiple complex subjects.

35 posted on 06/23/2019 6:59:58 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: Alberta's Child

“Who cares if someone has an IQ of 150 if they can’t even tell you how many amendments are in the Bill of Rights? “

They test for knowledge, not intelligence.


36 posted on 06/23/2019 7:02:20 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: reaganaut1

Obama would have never gotten into Columbia or Harvard Law if not for being black and having an Islamic name. He would have never been President of the Harvard Law Review either.

He was a “B” high school student. A white male would have zero chance with those grades.


37 posted on 06/23/2019 7:10:43 AM PDT by boycott
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To: HangnJudge

Not everyone goes to college for money. Some go to learn.

If we only have college for STEM and got rid of everything else, we’d have a very stupid civilization who knew nothing of history, ethics, literature, political science, and philosophy.

The ancient Greeks thought that stuff was quite important. So did people during the Renaissance. The reformation movement was lead by artists and philosophers. America’s founding fathers were philosophers. Philosophers don’t always make much money, but they change the world more than anyone who does have money.


38 posted on 06/23/2019 7:12:43 AM PDT by david1292
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To: reaganaut1

If colleges accepted on merit maybe we wouldn’t have so many idiots in ‘the press’....


39 posted on 06/23/2019 7:16:22 AM PDT by GOPJ (The press whores for democrats... Biden with white supremists? Biden was with fellow democrats.)
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To: 9YearLurker

The “asian” category probably includes American Indians and Hawaiians. The Gubermint has all sorts of categories we plebes aren’t aware of. They also consider Middle Easterners as white. I wonder how many of those asian students are here from overseas to study and how many are born here.


40 posted on 06/23/2019 7:19:23 AM PDT by Amberdawn
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