Posted on 04/11/2019 5:43:14 AM PDT by gattaca
It was the Brits interfering with our election not the Russkies.
Looks like Halpar spied on Waffle House first. I go with Treehouse on this one, the Obamunists have covered theirselves with justification perhaps just well enough but the legal trouble they have is in the process of the dossier and the FISA scandal.
Now, THIS is interesting.
just to be clear...”the FBI” did this? Not the previous president? ‘Bammy didn’t work his UK connections to “make this happen”?
I have trouble believing MI6 all by their little lonesome selves would dare to allow their country to appear involved, even through a cutout such as Halper, in something this egregious without explicit permission from above.
I smell spinnin’ here....
Perfidious Albion.
The Brits are a pretty weak nation compared to the past. I wonder if there was a hand pulling their strings.
But if it was the UK then it was the Conservative Party in the UK and its PM’s Cameron at first, later May where “the buck stops”.
They are a vindictive race of people. And, indeed, it resides at the feet of dancing girl, Theresa May.
What a mess. What this shows to me is the intelligence apparatus in this country is equally as bad as was the KGB and perhaps its forerunner the NKVD in Russia. The secret state.
A read an anecdote recently (having nothing to do with this whole adventure) concerning Yellow Journalism and the Spanish American War. Publisher Hurst had posted famous western illustrator Remington in Havana in 1897. Remington allegedly wired Hurst with a report saying there is nothing going on here, I want to leave. Hurst quipped back, you furnish the pictures, I will furnish the war. Apropos to this sordid affair? Perhaps by extension. You find the crime, I will find the subject.
We’ve seen (from somewhere...) Halper’s pay stubs. He was paid several hundred thousand dollars for his work for Homeland Security. My question would be, was that all for him, or was he running some sub-agents?
“It was the Brits interfering with our election not the Russkies.”
Absolutely correct. The British are neck deep in this.
Halper was a private contractor on the payroll of CIA, FBI and MI6.
Probably KGB too.
Rest assured he will never be examined by a prosecutor. And will never appear before a judge in a court of law.
He’s likely to disappear off the face of the earth.
I hope if Brexit occurs, we don’t do business with them.
“Halper graduated from Stanford in 1967”
And went to Oxford?
So he managed to keep his student deferment?
In other words he was a fat draft dodging POS even then.
No. It was “the Ruskies”.
What must be understood is that London has the world’s largest collection of Russian spies and double agents outside of Russia, and that has continued to be the case since the cold war. That community is populated not just with formal Russian citizens and Russians employed directly by Russian intelligence. It includes Russians who are or who have always pretended to be “ex pats” and now just live in the U.K., and they can be found in every profession in the U.K. that might potentially intersect with the government or anyone’s intelligence operations.
Steele did not have to go to Russia for his dossier. Most of his “informants” were likely right there in the U.K. And how many of them do you think intersected in some way with Putin’s folks? I would say most.
Steele and U.K. intelligence were USED by Putin for a disinformation campaign that became the Steele Dossier.
Putin was an “equal opportunity” disrupter. He was not really trying to help Billary, Inc. or Trump. All he sought to do was to heighten political discord here, that’s all. As if we needed his help; which in my view we didn’t; the Democrats alone had already been a big part maximizing the discord here.
The Steele Dossier was mostly compiled by Glenn Simpson back when he worked for the Wall St Journal. Then it was just rumors about a colorful billionaire and didn’t have political implications.
Steele was just a cover story to lend credibility.
No. They needed the imprimatur of the Russian “contacts” that Steele could add as part of their “evidence”. The Russian community in the U.K. was happy to provide them. Without them they had nothing “official” behind them; no provenance worth considering. Steele and his reputation and his Russian contacts made it all appear “legit”. Steele was needed. They never would have gotten Simpsons tales alone as far as they got the “Steele Dossier”.
That’s mostly hogwash. Crossfire Hurricane wasn’t a Putin operation, it was 100% an Obama operation, ordered directly by Obama to his top lieutenants Brennan and Clapper, and on down the chain, and also sideways across the international chain to their friends in MI6.
Obama quite correctly understood that Trump would do everything he could to undo his legacy and also to affect real policy change quite different from the postwar status quo of the last few decades, and was determined to do everything he possibly could to keep that from happening, including crossing all the old domestic political red lines.
The entire 5-eyes intelligence community was involved. This is precisely why Trump has been slow on the uptake.
I did not say that Steele was the origin of anything. But Steele was used so as to put an actual “here’s the intelligence” spin on what they were doing. The fact that he came after Crossfire Hurricane began does not change the relevance to the effort that the Steele Dossier later became.
could’ve gone the other way around...by which I mean Obama was tossing money at everyone overseas-and a good chunk was being laundered back into the US into a lot of media and politicians pockets.
Obama may even have been “blackmailed” into running this op to help keep “the spice” flowing -by those worried Trump would close the spigots.
Prolly the same people who had the goods on HRC by virtue of the details of what “really” went down in Benghazi...and intended to have her as president
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