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(Florida) ‘Stand your ground’ law protects shooter in deadly fight over parking space: sheriff
New York Post ^ | July 20, 2018 | Joshua Rhett Miller

Posted on 07/21/2018 10:33:56 AM PDT by Navy Patriot

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To: CurlyDave

>> Being under threat from a person of superior strength and tactical position, and fearing further physical harm, the victim defensively shoots his assailant.<<

He could have refrained from doing so and been dead seconds later. No way I would have hesitated.


221 posted on 07/21/2018 3:42:32 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat ( I would propound that that RT AmeriObama's legacy to the USA: A Criminalized Department of Justice.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
The guy who hit him was retreating.

When the victim hit the ground the perp was continuing to take a step forward...Only when he saw the victim reach for his weapon did the perp start backing up...

No doubt the guy was seriously rattled when he got knocked off his feet by the gorilla and we don't know what conversation was taking place...

My advice is: don't park in a handicap space if you don't have a sticker...

222 posted on 07/21/2018 3:44:54 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Was white guy simply do-gooder incensed that black girl took a space wrongly? Or was he handicapped and privileged for that space? Absolutely no word on this.

The guy's posture wasn't all that normal looking...I'd bet he got robbed of the handicap space...

223 posted on 07/21/2018 3:47:38 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: CTyank; Leaning Right

I concur, not a good shoot. Man was out of line shoving shooter to the ground, shooter was no longer in danger when he killed the idiot who shoved him.


224 posted on 07/21/2018 3:47:55 PM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Socialism is for losers.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

like he tends to be pushy and perhaps a bit of a power-hungry do-gooder.”

The old guy shouldn’t have been attacked but I gotta say, if I’m packing heat the mouth stays shut.


225 posted on 07/21/2018 3:50:11 PM PDT by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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To: DoodleDawg
So if McGlockton had come out and instead of pushing Drejka had pulled out a gun and shot him, would he also get off under “stand your ground”? After all he could say he was defending his girlfriend from an aggressive individual.

Naw, McGlockton, would be arrested and imprisoned for being a Felon in possession of a firearm, and for murder in the course of a Felony, and the use of a firearm in that murder. The girlfriend might even be charged as an accessory.

McGlockton might even get the Needle.

226 posted on 07/21/2018 3:55:58 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (America NEEDS Mob Rule, another European and Mid East World War and a universal Draft)
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To: crosdaddy

“It wasn’t full when the deceased first pulled in, there were plenty of open spaces.”

Maybe, but my point was that full or not, parking in a handicapped space is still a violation.


227 posted on 07/21/2018 3:59:42 PM PDT by LeoTDB69
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Heh Heh.. attitude adjustment.

Some ahole tried to car jack me in the barrio, a pistol changed his demeanor


228 posted on 07/21/2018 4:00:39 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Blue Collar Christian
Watch the video again and pause @ :20s. Look at the frame at 20s. How many people are within 7 yards of the guy on the ground and what are their dispositions?

There are 3, maybe 3.5 seconds, that pass before the shot. Your brain may be wired to react calmly within 3 seconds of a blind sided attack but it's not realistic to expect that of everyone that is attacked. Also, kudos to you for being so even keeled.
229 posted on 07/21/2018 4:01:52 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Blue Collar Christian

Who are you to say that he was no longer in danger?

What if he believed he was still in danger?

If I was him, I would have believed that I was in danger what just having been assaulted for no reason by some goon who is still standing over me.

Do you know what happens to white people when they are on the ground in front of several black people?

You ever seen what comes next?


230 posted on 07/21/2018 4:02:32 PM PDT by chris37 ("I am everybody." -Mark Robinson)
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To: HamiltonJay

Says the guy is ho wasn’t just pushed to the ground and not there knowing what may come next. You lay there and wait for the cops. They’ll be there in 20 min or so....


231 posted on 07/21/2018 4:07:55 PM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: Gay State Conservative

If you were that strong of a supporter of the 2A, you’d realize there’s not enough info there for you to make that call. You weren’t on the ground knowing what had been said.


232 posted on 07/21/2018 4:10:30 PM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: bort
I would need to know what the shooter told the cops as to why he shot. Was he disoriented from hitting the ground?

The eyewitness had the good sense to skedaddle when he saw the gun but the thug and his girlfriend stayed right there...In fact, when the girlfriend saw the boyfriend approaching, she got out of the car...So there then was a double threat...

It almost appears that before the victim shot, he quickly trained his weapon on the female as if she might be a threat before he aimed at the big guy and fired...

And since the eyewitness saw and probably heard everything from start to finish, could be his testimony led the police to claim the guy innocent...

233 posted on 07/21/2018 4:15:00 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: ripnbang
If you were that strong of a supporter of the 2A, you’d realize there’s not enough info there for you to make that call.

Although it's possible that the dead guy was making threatening statements after the push his body language in the few seconds before he was shot seem to be him saying "OK,I'm done".

234 posted on 07/21/2018 4:18:06 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (You Say "White Privilege"...I Say "Protestant Work Ethic")
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To: TalBlack

Amen


235 posted on 07/21/2018 4:23:42 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Seems to be. May not be though. A guy lying on the ground after being physically assaulted may see it differently. Let’s give him a break. No one needs to touch anyone else in the midst of an argument...once you do, all bets are off.


236 posted on 07/21/2018 4:24:08 PM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: TexasGator
Then why did they refer the case to the State’s Attorney?

Political pressure as a consequence of the racism angle.

If it was an obvious case for prosecution, the shooter would have been arrested on the spot. He still might be arrested if there is enough pressure applied in the right quarters. But it won't go well for the State if that happens.

I would bet that the DA does not want to touch this case.

237 posted on 07/21/2018 4:32:05 PM PDT by flamberge (What next?)
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To: TalBlack

Why is everyone calling him “old”? He’s 47. Younger than I and I still have plenty strength in me.


238 posted on 07/21/2018 4:39:14 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Paul R.
At this point fear and getting an accurate shot off is likely about all the shooter's mind can really process,...

That about sums it up, and that is imminent fear of death or great bodily harm, lethal force self defense criteria.

239 posted on 07/21/2018 4:39:34 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (America NEEDS Mob Rule, another European and Mid East World War and a universal Draft)
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To: Gay State Conservative

The person he assaulted wasn’t done, so tough sh!t for him, right?


240 posted on 07/21/2018 4:43:51 PM PDT by chris37 ("I am everybody." -Mark Robinson)
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