Posted on 05/09/2018 7:51:09 PM PDT by Mariner
I’m a 70 yr old nearly lifetime CA resident.
Never heard it was illegal to leave a vehicle idling.
It is illegal.
So is driving with a ding in your windshield.
Or, wipers that leave creases.
Both far more egregious crimes.
I read a couple of sources that mention five minute idling laws for both CA and Sacramento. Is that what you’referring to?
“WTF business of yours, or anyone else’s, is it if another person chooses to leave their vehicle running while they go into a store?”
I didn’t say it was my business.
I said it is dumb.
It’d be my business if I was in to stealing cars, but I’m not.
Anything I disagree with is stupid and I know best mother f’ers.
I may be wrong if the car is on private property. On the street it is illegal— car theft seems to be the reason.
“Because only an idiot would leave their car running when they went in a store.”
What possible reason is there to leave a car running when you are away from it other than to have it stolen?
“Never heard it was illegal to leave a vehicle idling.”
It’s a brave new California.
My mom is older than you. She’s the one who told me. It’s hard to pay attention to all their new laws.
I like to warm up the car before driving. Thus is fascism to my mind.
Check it out.
http://idlefreecalifornia.org/idling-regulations.html
This Air Resources Board is totalitarian and under no oversight.
We have idiots getting all worked up over idiots playing games with cops when there is real totalitarianism happening.
It’s illegal in 31 states.
In today’s legal environment I think ignorance of the law is a viable defense.
22515. (a) No person driving, or in control of, or in charge of, a motor vehicle shall permit it to stand on any highway unattended without first effectively setting the brakes thereon and stopping the motor thereof.
SETTING BRAKE? On a hill, I have heard of this, but on any street? I did see that street is the same as highway, but not private property.
Very little mention of the cops behavior. He didn’t need to ask for the ID.
Insurance will cover the theft of a vehicle even if you leave the keys in an unattended car. I know this for certain.
They almost always ask for ID. A lot of criminals with warrants out for their arrest are caught at traffic stops.
Did you find anything further about the 5-minute idling law?
I think the legality of this case depends on how long the guy was in the store.
I found a couple of 5-minute idling ordinances in my searches, and an ordinance against leaving vehicles unattended and idling on highways.
However, I found nothing in your link that says it's illegal to leave a vehicle running and unattended in a parking lot, as the cop contends.
Can you provide a quote from the link that backs the cop's contention?
I found 5-minute idling ordinances from both CA and Sacramento, but nothing about leaving a vehicle idling in a parking lot for a trip under 5 minutes.
AFAIK, the officer didn’t cite the 5 minute rule. If the cop wasn’t sure how long he’d been in the store, what justification did he have for demanding ID?
The vast majority are not.
The Guy was resisting, end of story.
The guy left is car on for a Purpose, he was “BLARING” music.
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