sure seems that way
Posted on 04/09/2018 8:38:59 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
Upstate begins where people don’t freak out about a BB gun. Upstate is getting smaller. It used to be fairly big when I lived there. I think it is now down to a hand full of counties.
Will this question ever be truly settled? Albany born, Island raised.
LOL, I was so surprised I fell out of my chair. Not.
North of E 174th Street.
> Grand Island is Upstate NY
Grand Island is Western NY
Upstate begins in Westchester. The air temperature changes at around that point. I’ve gone from LI to Valhalla many times and been surprised by the difference in temps.
I live in the Hudson Valley and there are three often-argued lines that determine where upstate and downstate meet.
1.Poughkeepsie - the Eastern landing of the Mid-Hudson Bridge, and the end of the line for Metro-North, roughly 75 miles from midtown Manhattan
2. I-84 - About 15 miles south of Poughkeepsie. I would accept this answer 20 years ago, but Fishkill, Wappingers, the Town of Newburgh and other areas north of the highway have become increasingly suburban.
3. The 845-518 border - the northern communities of Dutchess County, across to Greene County (Ulster County in 100% 845) are all still fairly rural/exurb areas and are considerably different than their downstate counterparts.
Any of these answers works for me. I’ve slowly moved over the years from #1 to #2. A lot of people who live here use #2. As a matter of culture the answer (these days) is more like #3.
Nice description of Albany that applies equally, though in a different way, to Ithaca. Ithaca is a combination of a New York City and a Boston/some other random East coast corridor major city neighborhood (maybe a D.C. suburb) dropped into the middle of Oz.
I was in Binghampton years ago and it seemed like a sad, worn out ghetto.
I was amazed that the supermarket had a barrier to prevent shopping carts from exiting the store. Not the parking lot mind you, but the store itself.
“Which one is Nixon?”
The one that’s not the guy.
I moved from Ithaca to CA when I was 21. I got tired of explaining to people that when I said I was from New York I didn’t mean NYC....so I always said and still do, “upstate NY” in answer to that question...
LOL ... that’s sort of the crux of the issue - who gets to define the meaning of “upstate”?
For many NYC residents it’s practically anything north or west of Yonkers. But all my CNY relatives tell me, no, they are not “upstate”, they are CNY!
As for all those other regions mentioned, it’s basically the same in Manhattan - one can either divide it into three areas - uptown, midtown and downtown - or into several areas - upper east side, upper west side, theatre district, garment district, financial district, alphabet city, etc. So when you divide the state that way then the “central” district is smaller and does not include Albany. But as mentioned, how does it work if you divide it into only three areas, such as we do in Manhattan?
From what I can see, there is no clear authority on where the boundaries are when folks refer to either just “upstate” only, or to all three - upstate, central, and downstate - so I guess it just depends on who is talking about it.
We use the terms more for clarity.
Since in the country, almost everything is about a half hour drive from everything else, it’s just easier to speak in general areas.
sure seems that way
No, everything west of AZ is Insaneland
You know where Baldwinsville is then you know where upstate is. Inside the snow belt,in the mosquito zone, where it can snow from October to May with the sweetest sweet corn and a Coney at Heids in Liverpool is?
Do you know where Smokey Hollow Road is?
Sorry no.
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