First it was Confederate monuments. Now statues offensive to Native Americans are poised to topple.

Los Angeles Times ^ | 04/01/2018 | Jaweed Kaleem

[Osage Orange]

Hello...friend.

[rockrr]

I’m not sure that Lincoln ever killed anyone. I recognize that he was the Commander in Chief of several armies who did indeed kill a lot of the enemy, but I don’t think that Lincoln ever actually pulled the trigger on anyone.

[sargon]

The Emancipation Proclamation only freed slaves in areas (states) rebelling against the Federal government. Slaves in slave states loyal to the Federal government remained in their status for example Delaware. (Yes Delaware was a slave state! Slave population in Delaware was something like 120 slaves.) It took the 13th amendment(Ratified 12/06/1865) to abolish slavery everywhere in the US.

I'm aware of this, but the number of slaves in the "unaffected" states was very small. Still, an interesting historical distinction. It would have made sense to go ahead and have it apply everywhere, one would think. I wonder if it was because the powers Lincoln was exercising by issuing the Emancipation Proclamation were powers appropriate only to use against States in active rebellion? If not, I wonder what the reasoning was for the distinction?

[JBW1949]

Siyo...

[JBW1949]

Dohitsu?

[JBW1949]

Digegv Qualla

[rockrr]

I wonder if it was because the powers Lincoln was exercising by issuing the Emancipation Proclamation were powers appropriate only to use against States in active rebellion?

That's it exactly.

[FLT-bird]

That’s not a primary source.

Don’t care. He said it. Its been widely reported. Deal with it.

[rockrr]

Prove it....but you can’t.

[FLT-bird]

Prove it....but you can’t.

I’m not your google monkey. Feel free to search for yourself.

[Reily]

To sell it politically Lincoln used the EP as a means of decreasing the labor supply in the South. This was (At least it was thought it would!) to harm the Southern war effort by diminishing production in supply and labor for military engineering.

[Fiji Hill]

This forum has been infested with that vermin my 18 years here
Many were zotted
I try to keep a list on my homepage

I've crossed swords with some of those on your list.

[rockrr]

I did.

Lost Causer Mythology.

[Fiji Hill]

WHERE is Humboldt State. What kind of a school is it?

In Arcata, Mendocino County, Calif. It's part of the California State University system--not to be confused with the higher-ranking University of California. And also, not to be confused with Humboldt University in East Berlin.

[RegulatorCountry]

Thank you.

[JBW1949]

Well, I’m gone to bed...Osda enoyi...

[FLT-bird]

I did.

Lost Causer Mythology.

Nah. PC Revisionist Lies.

[rockrr]

Well yeah - what you claim is probably “PC Revisionist Lies” - but I didn’t expect you to admit to it ;’}

[jmacusa]

They fought to preserve an economic system based on the use of slave labor. There is no honor in that.’’ Secede from Obama’s America’’? What the hell kind of question is that?

[DoodleDawg]

He wasn’t like Foster Brooks 24/7 Jack.

He wasn't like Foster Brooks at all, Jack. He was an outstanding general who beat everyone the rebels sent against him.