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Stress test may have contributed to collapse of FIU pedestrian bridge
Miami Herald ^ | 15 March 2018 | By Jenny Staletovich, Rene Rodriguez And Joey Flechas

Posted on 03/16/2018 3:59:12 AM PDT by csvset

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To: ptsal

FWIW, just worked for me. :-)


41 posted on 03/16/2018 5:04:45 AM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Been checking FEC records for some of the Munilla brothers. RINO/Uniparty players, gave to local Critters, McCain, Rubio, and Bob Menendez. Haven’t found any donations to Trump so far...


42 posted on 03/16/2018 5:06:37 AM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: Moonman62

Just about every over pass I see on highways and local roads have steel beams. Why the need for a cable stayed bridge for this; what should have been a mundane pedestrian footbridge? Oh, the Feds are on the hook, let’s splurge ?


43 posted on 03/16/2018 5:07:38 AM PDT by csvset (illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: nickedknack

“If stress testing being conducted, why would the road be open, with vehicles stopped directly under the bridge? Doesn’t make sense.”

You may find a contractual clause penalizing the company if they interrupt traffic. Interruptions to traffic probably subtract from award fee or performance fees. The site manager would say, “we need to close down traffic for two hours to conduct a stress test.” The owner/manager would see a reduction in his take-home of x dollars and say, “Can we do it without interrupting traffic?”
“Well, so long as the test is successful, yes.”
“What? You don’t trust your design? Do it without interrupting.”


44 posted on 03/16/2018 5:12:19 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: All
Here's a great dessert idea---Jasper Johns' iconic three-tiered flag becoming a layer cake.

Okay-----serve a second cake decorated like the French flag.

45 posted on 03/16/2018 5:17:31 AM PDT by Liz ((Our side has 8 trillion bullets;the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.))
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To: PapaBear3625

You are spot on. Concrete roof indeed. The Chinese would take the company principles outside and put one between the lookers for such things.


46 posted on 03/16/2018 5:21:45 AM PDT by healy61
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To: Iron Munro

I still mourn the dog in the car.


47 posted on 03/16/2018 5:23:44 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you)
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To: csvset

I think this was a pure constructor screwup.

See this video animation of the bridge:

https://youtu.be/5Y_71L35CvM

This shows a cable-stayed bridge design. The upper stays were not in place, yet they had no temporary supports at the midpoint of the bridge until that tower on the one side was constructed and the cable stays in place. There was nothing providing necessary up force, and the bridge was simply not able to support itself.

I don’t think this had a thing to do with tweaking the tension on the post-tensioning cables/tendons. Or if it did, that was not the root of the problem.


48 posted on 03/16/2018 5:24:38 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Liz

Thanks, Liz, I’m sure we’ll keep this in mind. s/


49 posted on 03/16/2018 5:28:30 AM PDT by healy61
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To: FreedomPoster

Any bets that the replacement bridge will be a much simpler design?


50 posted on 03/16/2018 5:31:04 AM PDT by csvset (illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: csvset
The center’s director, Atorod Azizinamini, recognized by the White House in 2016

One of Obama's crew?

51 posted on 03/16/2018 5:31:35 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: nickedknack

In the article, all that speedy building and shortcuts and concrete is to keep the mayor’s phone from ringing. Hope the mayor is getting an earful now.


52 posted on 03/16/2018 5:35:15 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: csvset

Just about every over pass I see on highways and local roads have steel beams. Why the need for a cable stayed bridge for this; what should have been a mundane pedestrian footbridge? Oh, the Feds are on the hook, let’s splurge ?

...

Yep, and all that money makes it easier for politicians and their friends to steal it. Supposedly this bridge was faster to build, but it wasn’t going to open until 2019.


53 posted on 03/16/2018 5:38:09 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: csvset
It appears the bridge was a fully suspended bridge without center supports. Why wasn't the bridge suspended and stress tested on the side of road where it was constructed before it was moved into place? So many questions - - - concrete composition, sufficient cure time, weird support design of the triangulation support system and only one center support running down the center of the span, which would increases side to side flexing and buckling. Was concrete fractured during moving.
54 posted on 03/16/2018 5:40:40 AM PDT by iontheball (lLL)
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To: csvset

Pretty bridges are an urban fad these days. Everyone wants to copy the Millennium Bridge in London. (It was pretty, but required a couple of years of re-engineering after the original crew collected their money and called it complete.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Bridge,_London

When politicians start re-directing money and undercutting specifications, you get fiascoes like the Margaret McDermott Bridge in Dallas. (Which they didn’t bother to stress test, hiding the problems until later) https://archpaper.com/2018/01/santiago-calatravas-margaret-mcdermott-bridge-cracking-wind/


55 posted on 03/16/2018 5:40:46 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: goldstategop

“..and self-cleaning gimmick”

I believe this was loudly bragged about. I have to wonder how many other “green building” projects are in the works that have the same feature.


56 posted on 03/16/2018 5:41:32 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: Haddit

“”””I’ve seen too many times engineers with no mechanical aptitude rely on software.””””””

I deal with them all the time. They have never built anything themselves. They have never touched a welder, wrench, shovel.

They only know what their computer tells them. They are taught by professors who have never touched a tool or been outside.

I had a small open structure go down in a micro burst a few years ago. They all blamed me. I explained that it was built according to the engineered specifications. Every step was inspected by engineers. It was signed off by engineers.

I told them the design was wrong and the anchor bolts were too small. I told them if they changed it a little bit the wind wouldn’t catch it so much. I was told the computer models show the roof with its funky design was capable of withstanding those winds. What did they do? Rebuilt it the exact same way.


57 posted on 03/16/2018 5:43:57 AM PDT by shelterguy
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To: Reno89519
Especially as reports say this isn’t their first accident. How about some accountability?

Look, if you own a construction company, accidents are part of doing business.

I will not jump to a conclusion on that issue yet.

58 posted on 03/16/2018 5:44:11 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Liberal bastions are full of misogyny, drugs, pedophilia and racism (Hollywood, Academia, DC))
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To: csvset

There’s nothing overly complicated about the bridge design, it has been commonly used for many years, and they do look cool, which is nice.

You just can’t ignore basics about how they work during the construction.


59 posted on 03/16/2018 5:59:51 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: csvset

As long as the project met its minority ‘goals and quotas’, it’s difficult to see what the problem is here.


60 posted on 03/16/2018 6:01:15 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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