Posted on 02/15/2018 3:30:13 PM PST by SpeedyInTexas
Complete every inch and then we deal. Every. Inch. Complete.
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For a variety of reasons. Among them, I can’t see sending people back to a country they’ve never known, where they may not even speak the language,
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And, that’s ‘OUR’ problem, how?? Actions have consequences, this is one (possible) to being an ILLEGAL *CRIMINAL* alien.
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and are set up to fail once they get there, when they didn’t make the decision to break the law.
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They decided to STAY, even after KNOWING they were in the country illegally. They made up their OWN mind to be, and remain, a law-breaker.
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No citizenship. No voting. No criminality. And no being a public charge.
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Hell, ‘no public charge’ used to the be THE baseline and govt cannot even do THAT right.
IMO, terminate the welfare state in any/all fashion. I suspect many ‘problems’ will self-correct.
It is our great misfortune to have been stupid enough to keep electing people who won’t understand plain English. Six words:
NO AMNESTY. BUILD THE F’N WALL.
“in exchange for $25 billion in border security funding”
Watch out for the old “authorized but not appropriated” gambit from these crooked b@$+@&ds.
5 years?
Who do you think we’re dealing with, a bunch of politicians, or a builder?
2 years.
$25 billion for border security does not mean a wall. The GOP Congress is duplicitous when it comes to the wall. In 2006 Congress passed the secure fence act which mandated “at least two layers of reinforced fencing.” The Department of Homeland Security of the Jorge W. Bush administration immediately began a campaign to convince Congress to loosen the requirement. In 2007 GOP Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison introduced an amendment to the law which gutted the wall requirement stating, “nothing in this paragraph shall require the Secretary of Homeland Security to install fencing, physical barriers, roads, lighting, cameras, and sensors in a particular location along an international border of the United States, if the Secretary determines that the use or placement of such resources is not the most appropriate means to achieve and maintain operational control over the international border at such location.”
With the amendment to the law, DHS was free to shift its focus to a “virtual” fence with sensors, drones, and cameras. Frustrated with the shift in direction, Senator JIm DeMint of SC sponsored a bill to force DHS to erect the double layer fence required in the original 2006 legislation. DeMint’s bill was defeated in the Senate. In January 2011 the Obama administration ended the virtual fence because it was ineffective. Only 53 miles of virtual fence had been constructed.
The truth is there are not 51 votes in the Senate for a wall, much less the 60 required to pass the legislation. All Democrats are against the wall and probably 1/3 of Republicans don’t want a physical barrier. If the GOP loses the Senate in the 2018 elections, a Democrat Senate will pass a DACA bill with no wall and will ensure no border security money is spent to construct physical barriers. There will be enough Republicans voting with the Democrats to hit the 60 vote threshold to break a filibuster. Add a Democrat House and we will have amnesty with no wall.
GOP RINO senators float fallback surrender plan to protect Dreamers
Put able-bodied DACA-ites to work on the wall; for each fulltime month of labor they volunteer, they get to stay an extra year unmolested in the US as guest workers without citizenship. Most of them don't need a paycheck anyway if they're already collecting welfare & foodstamps, right?
:-)
There’s an idea.
The other question is whether the $25M is authorization for spending or an actual appropriation. One is a plan, the other is actual funding.
“I can’t see sending people back to a country they’ve never known, where they may not even speak the language”
After 3 years of age, they knew the language of their country and still do.
If they need an orientation to their country, their parents - who broke the law here - can teach them when we deport them as a group.
Implement mandatory E-Verify and the problem will correct itself.
Yup.
They can pass an emergency spending bill in excess of $60 Billion over night for hurricane relief, but after 40 years of trying, funding the measly wall eludes them.
Congress simply refuses to do it.
Perhaps Trump's only option at this point is deploy the US military to the border on the grounds of national security. They could erect hundreds of miles of razor wire and landmines and deploy snipers and soliders at certain locations.
That would get the RINOs and Liberals attention.
Since nothing has come of this, Trump needs to up his demands - ok, now dreamers is going to cost a $30B wall, the waiting time to citizenship is 14 years, not 12, and the following reforms to immigration. Don’t make me rebid again.
Do you really think people raised by parents who do not speak English do not speak their parents language?
Agreed. My thoughts exactly.
THREAD WINNER !!!
I will not need to read any further on this one !
Deport them all. No compromise. Find another way to build a wall.
What do I think??
I think I am sick and tired of these Chamber of Commerce/OpenBorders/RINOs going against the will of the Republican base, and the people who voted for Trump.....to end this bull carp.
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