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Corker: No agreement yet on debt trigger in tax bill [voting tomorrow on mystery bill!]
The Hill ^ | 11/30/2017 | Alexander Bolton

Posted on 11/30/2017 10:33:53 AM PST by GIdget2004

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To: GIdget2004

The trigger is a bad idea. It would kick in if and only if it would also be a devastating blow to the economy. But the bill is not a “mystery” because it’s unknown whether the trigger will be included. Quite the contrary: the Senate is allowing consideration of amendments! GASP! And it’s unknown YET whether the final Senate bill will include the trigger BECAUSE THE TRIGGER HASN’T COME UP FOR A VOTE.

After the Senate votes on the trigger, it will then know whether the trigger is included in the final bill.


21 posted on 11/30/2017 11:57:21 AM PST by dangus
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To: urbanpovertylawcenter

We all hate Corker and Flake by now, but just to consider how hateable they are, could anyone ever have guessed that Corker or Flake would prefer 35% taxes to 20% taxes in the event that economy grows slower than expected?


22 posted on 11/30/2017 12:00:14 PM PST by dangus
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To: GIdget2004

Spend trigger should be more like it. When I realize my family will take in less money, I have to cut back on what I spend. Congress is soooooo screwed up! Please, let the revolution begin!


23 posted on 11/30/2017 12:05:18 PM PST by New Jersey Realist ( (Be Nice To Your Kids. They Will Pick Out Your Nursing Home))
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To: Owen

Good post on QE. At this point taxation is pointless—really just a method of controlling the populace and training them to obey.

QE destroys all standard economic theory—except that it is guaranteed long term ruin for any civilization that adopts it in large measure.


24 posted on 11/30/2017 12:19:05 PM PST by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: cgbg

I stay away from predictions. QE was necessary. Capitalism failed. Bernanke kept the trains running on time.

But it’s delusion, and willful delusion by everyone who ever earned any money or has any money.

We sneer at how the Soviets and communism failed. They had Gosbank, which was not empowered to do monetary policy. They just created money to accommodate their 5 year plan.

Well, if they had done QE, they would not have “failed”. Well, they would have, but the trains would have still run on time. Just like with the Fed. No one can possibly accept that capitalism is a failure. But it is. It failed. The Fed gave it money.


25 posted on 11/30/2017 12:54:30 PM PST by Owen
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To: Owen
LOL — To the extent that ANY portion of “capitalism” failed, it failed because Statists in the Federal government DICTATED that financial institutions must make massive loans to people who weren’t even capable of managing their affairs well enough to pay their monthly telephone bills.
26 posted on 11/30/2017 1:14:30 PM PST by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY)
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To: House Atreides

Actually the commissions to mortgage brokers and loan officers made that happen more than govt pressure.

But it did happen. And capitalism did fail. Bernanke didn’t save it. He just created pretense all were delighted to sign onto.


27 posted on 11/30/2017 2:26:01 PM PST by Owen
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To: GIdget2004

Senator Flake was just fishing for, digging for, hoping for something... ANYTHING... that would allow him to keep the high moral road and stick a big knife on Trump’s back.

He found it. He is SOOOOooo concerned about increasing the deficit! /s

Oh, now in good conscience he can cast a ‘NO’ vote. I hope others see through this and ostracize him from any future public life.

Keeping things in perspective, 1.5 Trillion over 10 years is nothing compared to Obama’s 10 Trillion over 8 years.

Also by definition 1.5 trillion does not ‘substantially increase the debt’

By definition.

Because to go forwards with a 50 vote reconciliation, the Byrd amendment says that it can only happen if it does not ‘substantially increase the debt’. The number everybody in the senate agreed that meets that criteria was 1.5 Trillion.


28 posted on 11/30/2017 3:26:48 PM PST by Toughluck_freeper
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To: GIdget2004

How about a debt trigger to CUT SPENDING?


29 posted on 11/30/2017 3:39:19 PM PST by Joe Bfstplk (A Texas Deplorable.)
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To: Architect of Avalon

If you like your taxes, you can keep your taxes...


30 posted on 11/30/2017 3:40:57 PM PST by Joe Bfstplk (A Texas Deplorable.)
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