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Spending at all levels indeed remains a problem, as does the unwillingness of people in high tax states to face up to the fact that they are passing their costs on to the rest of the country. The lamentations of FReepers every time I post an article about the new tax plan attests to that.
1 posted on 11/28/2017 9:39:50 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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“fact that they are passing their costs on to the rest of the country”

Please explain the flow of money that indicates these costs are passed to anyone outside the offending state.

In 100% of cases the taxes and expenditures within any state, absent Federal expenditures, are local.

Nobody in any state pays money into California except via federal expenditure.

And you cannot identify a money flow that shows otherwise.


45 posted on 11/29/2017 9:28:56 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Imposing Federal tax liabilities just because people must raise enough money to pay their state and local taxes is illegal, unconstitutional, unwise, and just plain wrong.

If I own property, I am FORCED to earn money to pay the state tax on that. When I do, that is “net income zero.”

If I now, thanks to “tax reform,” have to pay the Feds a tribute just because I pay my State tax, that’s not income tax, that’s now a form of Federal Property tax! Unconstitutional!

I might have to own less property all because of that FED tax on property.

Again, if you have to pay a Federal tax because you own property, that’s Federal property tax. Illegal.

It is also not a proper function of the Federal Government to try to tax We the People in such a way as to prevent our States from raising money to perform their State functions.

It is better for the States to get first crack. That’s how it is supposed to be in these USA.

The Federal government is supposed to be LIMITED ... it can take its taxes BASED ON, and from, our LEFTOVERS.

Money that We the People do not get because our states keep it is NOT INCOME. Money we give to the States is STATE money and the Feds do not get to PENALIZE us for funding our states as we see fit.

There might be some nice side effects to this tax scheme where crazy Progressive states get hit more, but since when do Freepers believe that “the end justifies the means” in our government’s operation ??? Think about this.

Moreover, the proposal will does not in the long run reduce tax receipts by government, anyway, and that is what all Freepers want, less control by Government.

How the hell are we going to get government under control if we do not starve it even a little? Government control is significantly proportional to the money it gets. To control government, limit it with law, and starve it with money.

It is all a FAKE argument that expanding the things that government gets to tax if good. Now you want a Federal property tax too? You advocates of this are arguing to EXPAND Federal taxing authority and extent. Think it over, you do not want it.

I want a better tax proposal!

(also see https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3609000/posts?page=17#17)


55 posted on 11/29/2017 1:00:12 PM PST by Weirdad (Orthodox Americanism: It's what's good for the world! (Not communofascism!))
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