Franken Reportedly Will Not Resign

Townhall.com ^ | November 20, 2017 | Leah Barkoukis

[HLPhat]

OK, I just put that out there to get an idea where the standard for resigning should be.

Pretty sure the standard for resigning (in an actual Republic where a moral/criminal code still applied) would be subordniate to the standard for making an arrest given evidence that a violation of the criminal code had occured.

For Example, a violation of the UCMJ:

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45. Article 120—Rape and sexual assault generally

(g) Definitions. In this section:

(2) Sexual contact. The term ‘sexual contact’
means—
(A) touching, or causing another person to
touch, either directly or through the clothing, the
genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks
of any person, with an intent to abuse, humiliate,
or degrade any person; or...

 

(8) Consent.

...

(B) A sleeping, unconscious, or incompetent person cannot consent. A person cannot consent to force causing or likely to cause death or grievous bodily harm or to being rendered unconscious. A person cannot consent while under threat or fear or under the circumstances described in subparagraph (C) or (D) of subsection (b)(1).

http://www.sapr.mil/public/docs/ucmj/UCMJ_Article120_Rape_Sexual_Assault.pdf

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https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/criminal-hrsp/legacy/2011/02/04/03-10-08dod-ucmj.pdf

 

So....

[Ted Grant]

I’m a lawyer, I know the law.

Anyone acting out over this is an immature, humorless asshat.

[rolling_stone]

agree not done for sexual reasons arousement etc.. basically a stupid joke.

[Sam Gamgee]

OK that really answers something for me. The term sexual assault is thrown around so loosely, I didn’t really have an idea as to what is was. So it could really be something even as tame as tapping someone on the bum?

A person we met recently was in the news for charges of sexual assault. My mind just immediately jumped to “rape”. Since that one article we cannot find out anything more in the news as to what happened after his court date.

[HLPhat]

>>I’m a lawyer

Yeah you and President “IS”

The definitions are PLAINLY articulated in UCMJ

He touched her breast. That is sexual contact.
He did it while she was asleep. That means she didn’t consent.

So start paddling that banana boat, Councilor.

[Ted Grant]

Working overtime on this, huh?

Franken isn’t resigning and he shouldn’t. Period.

[HLPhat]

No overtime required to see that useless bottom feeders like you are the reason the Clintons and the Frankins infesting this former republic think they’re untouchable.

Congratulations.

[Ted Grant]

It’s my fault? I can distinguish between gag photos and accounts of sexual assault and rape. I’m solid.

[HLPhat]

He touched her breast without consent.

The UCMJ doesn’t care if some dirbat New York frat punk thinks it was a “gag” or not.

[Ted Grant]

Haul him into military court, see how far you get.

Absurd.

[HLPhat]

>>Haul him into military court, see how far you get.

Did he touch her breasts while she was a sleep? YES or NO.

>>Absurd.

You grope your clients when they’re asleep do ya?

[Ted Grant]

Fantasy land. There will be no military trial

[madison10]

Louis Gates, Jr. Probably thinks that. In every one of his shows he either guilts the White person about slavery or mentions the black persons slave past.

Some of what Franken did was consensual and/or was supposed to be humorous at the time. Women who were adults when they were “groped,” who said nothing within a few years should be ignored. You are right, ten years is over the top.

[HLPhat]

>>Fantasy land. There will be no military trial

Banana Republic, thanks to bottom feeding POS like you and Bill Clinton - who think you're above the law, which in this case, is CLEAR:

45. Article 120—Rape and sexual assault generally

(g) Definitions. In this section:

(2) Sexual contact. The term ‘sexual contact’
means—
(A) touching, or causing another person to 
touch, either directly or through the clothing, the
genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks
of any person, with an intent to abuse, humiliate,
or degrade any person; or...

 

(8) Consent.

...

(B) A sleeping, unconscious, or incompetent person cannot consent. A person cannot consent to force causing or likely to cause death or grievous bodily harm or to being rendered unconscious. A person cannot consent while under threat or fear or under the circumstances described in subparagraph (C) or (D) of subsection (b)(1).

http://www.sapr.mil/public/docs/ucmj/UCMJ_Article120_Rape_Sexual_Assault.pdf

[Ted Grant]

How immature can you be? You can copy and paste all you want, but Franken won’t be thrown out of the senate and won’t face a military trial.

[HLPhat]

You and Bill Cosby’s lawyer do lunch lately, dirtbag?

[truth_seeker]

If he won’t resign, some 14 year old needs to accuse him of statutory rape, 38 years ago.

[Ted Grant]

No, and there still won’t be a military trial for Senator Franken.

[HLPhat]

>>won’t be a military trial for Senator Franken

None-the-less -  for the record. councilor DirtBag, Frankin commited a crime per the definitions of the UCMJ:

45. Article 120—Rape and sexual assault generally

(g) Definitions. In this section:

(2) Sexual contact. The term ‘sexual contact’
means—
(A) touching, or causing another person to 
touch, either directly or through the clothing, the
genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks
of any person, with an intent to abuse, humiliate,
or degrade any person; or...

 

(8) Consent.

...

(B) A sleeping, unconscious, or incompetent person cannot consent. A person cannot consent to force causing or likely to cause death or grievous bodily harm or to being rendered unconscious. A person cannot consent while under threat or fear or under the circumstances described in subparagraph (C) or (D) of subsection (b)(1).

http://www.sapr.mil/public/docs/ucmj/UCMJ_Article120_Rape_Sexual_Assault.pdf