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Pelosi: Vote for the budget would make Republicans ‘accomplices’ in a California tax hike
The Sacramento Bee ^ | October 25th, 2017 | By Emily Cadei

Posted on 10/25/2017 7:19:22 PM PDT by Mariner

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Republicans in Blue States will kill this proposal.

Dead.

There's more than enough of them. Upwards of 50.

1 posted on 10/25/2017 7:19:22 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner

Pelousy has been delusional for quite some time already


2 posted on 10/25/2017 7:20:35 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are nothttps://www.youtube.com/watch born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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To: faithhopecharity

“Pelousy has been delusional for quite some time already”

Which has nothing to do with this article or thread...


3 posted on 10/25/2017 7:21:52 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

well, i think it does


4 posted on 10/25/2017 7:23:08 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are nothttps://www.youtube.com/watch born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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To: Mariner

If this passes Trump can kiss California good-bye in 2020.
If this fails, Trump can kiss California good-bye in 2020.


5 posted on 10/25/2017 7:23:47 PM PDT by BobL ( I beat up McDonald's and Walmart because it makes me feel like a man.)
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To: Mariner

Right now it looks like there’ll be a cap on SALT deductions.
But things can change.


6 posted on 10/25/2017 7:23:55 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Mariner

She should know all about raising taxes, now shouldn’t she?


7 posted on 10/25/2017 7:25:42 PM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: Mariner

It does look like most of the Republican districts are from much lower income areas of California (generally inland), and thus will feel little or no pain from the tax plan, since the Standard Deduction doubles - in fact, many in those districts will gain from it.

The people who will really feel it are in the high income / high housing priced areas, the areas represented by DEMOCRATS, which is why the Democrats are leading the opposition to the plan (both in California and in the expensive areas of the Northeast).


8 posted on 10/25/2017 7:28:52 PM PDT by BobL ( I beat up McDonald's and Walmart because it makes me feel like a man.)
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“If this passes Trump can kiss California good-bye in 2020.
If this fails, Trump can kiss California good-bye in 2020.”

Correct, Trump loses CA either way.

But this is about whether the Republicans in the House can put together a majority without Blue State Republicans.

Because there’s not a single one of them that will vote for it.


9 posted on 10/25/2017 7:29:58 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Here’s a thought...California could always lower their taxes. (obviously, not going to happen)


10 posted on 10/25/2017 7:33:04 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: BobL

Did you read the article?

“from much lower income areas of California”

Dream on.

1/3 of Republican District constituents take the deductions. If you’re in a red district in Texas it’s a similar number but you’re not really at risk because...it’s red Texas and you can forfeit a large portion of the vote.

Somebody like Tom McClintock (damn solid conservative) would not stand a chance if he soured even 10% of his voters.


11 posted on 10/25/2017 7:34:36 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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So Pelosi is against tax hikes.

Uh huh.

12 posted on 10/25/2017 7:35:44 PM PDT by bagster (Social Culture Warrior (SCW))
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To: Mariner

Eh, this will still only impact a very small % of Republicans in liberal states after accounting for lower tax rates and higher standard deductions (not even counting the benefit of higher equity markets from lower corporate taxes and increased demand for US labor from lower corporate tax rates)


13 posted on 10/25/2017 7:36:03 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: BobL

I wish they’d go with a post card flat tax and be done with it.


14 posted on 10/25/2017 7:36:37 PM PDT by Undecided 2012
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To: bagster

“So Pelosi is against tax hikes.”

Of course not.


15 posted on 10/25/2017 7:36:57 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

The state of California could try to manage its budget better. The politicians could stop the anti-growth policies and generous welfare schemes that drive up taxes. There are all kinds of things they *could* do but won’t.

None of this has anything to do with Republicans. If there was not a single Republican in the state, the Dems would still find a way to blame Republicans for their own failures. It’s what they do.


16 posted on 10/25/2017 7:41:22 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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Again, don’t be fooled by those numbers. They’re only true with TODAY’s Standard Deduction. Double the Standard Deduction and those percentages would likely drop by at least 2/3’s, at least in the lower income areas of the state.

For example, if I can itemize $20k and the SD is $12.7k, I’ll itemize and save nearly $2k in taxes. But if I can itemize $20k and the SD is doubled to $25.4k, guess what, I DO NOT itemize.

But you are probably right, in the end, as the Democrats and their media will likely convince the country using today’s percentages rather than what would be the much lower post-Trump plan percentages (after all, it worked on you).


17 posted on 10/25/2017 7:42:52 PM PDT by BobL ( I beat up McDonald's and Walmart because it makes me feel like a man.)
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“Eh, this will still only impact a very small % of Republicans in liberal states after accounting for lower tax rates and higher standard deductions”

There’s no evidence to substantiate that.

First, it will affect every taxpayer who itemizes. That’s 43 million households. In every state.

One could argue that some of those will be peeled off with the lower standard deduction. But doubling that from ~$6,300 hardly covers the loss of SALT for most.

Remember, SALT covers every excise tax, property tax, school bond tax, sales tax and state income tax.

I and several I work with will get hammered.

Income and cost of living are more a determinant than state you live in.


18 posted on 10/25/2017 7:46:11 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Oh, you don’t mean like that .20 cent per gallon of gas tax hike which goes into effect next Wednesday?

Or raising the cost for renewing the tag on my vehicle by $120 dollars a year?

Pffft!!!


19 posted on 10/25/2017 7:50:28 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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I make well into six figures and am single.

My standard deduction might increase to around $12.5k...if the Republican staffers can be believed.

My Mortgage Interest deduction exceeds that before any SALT is considered.

I am certain my taxes will go up, as will millions of those like me.

And we’ll work against Republicans every day from that day forward.

And I get it that you don’t care.


20 posted on 10/25/2017 7:50:48 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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