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The climate-change fire alarm from Northern California
Los Angeles Times ^ | October 12, 2017 | by The Times Editorial Board

Posted on 10/12/2017 10:04:22 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: 5th MEB

“Like I said; you do what you want to do, I’ll do what I was trained to do and keep my property safe.”

I am not taking issue with your prescription for keeping your property clear. But the fact of the matter is (and we were just looking at an arial view of the neighborhood in Santa Rosa that was completely destroyed, there is just no way any “clearing” could have prevented that devastation. In a suburban neighborhood you don’t have the ability to clear 300 ft around your home. We were in Napa Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday and it’s the wind that caused it all.


41 posted on 10/12/2017 4:53:31 PM PDT by vette6387 (LOCK HER UP! COMEY TOO.)
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To: Mariner

“PG&E is contractually obligated to keep their right of way clear.”

PG&E can’t find it’s a$$ with both hands and a flashlight. We have a second home in Carmel, CA. About three years ago, PG&E decided to “line” all the natural gas lines in the town because they were old and leaked. They tried unsuccessfully to move our gas meter to the top of the stairs that lead to our back door because it’s old location (since 1940) was under a kitchen window that could be opened. When I told them no way, because the stairs were actually a fire egress route, the lead guy decided that they could meet their new code by piping the vent on the regulator away from the window area. They never did it. But what they did do is completely blow up a home a few blocks from ours which brought lawsuits coupled with the resultant cessation of work to repair the torn up streets for at least a year and a half. The only good news is evidently PG&E had to completely repave all the streets they dug up instead of just doing their usual “thief in the night” patch jobs on the trenches they dug. PG&E is a crap company, so I wouldn’t doubt that their lack of tree trimming around their power lines in the Napa Valley might have been one of the causes of the fire when the high winds brought down some of their lines.


42 posted on 10/12/2017 9:07:26 PM PDT by vette6387 (LOCK HER UP! COMEY TOO.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

People are still allowed to develop land in Kalifornia???


43 posted on 10/12/2017 9:13:05 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Environ-MENTAL-ism is MENTAL)
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To: vette6387

I already commented about front spotting and fire jumping lines; it doesn’t alter the fact that somebody, not necessarily the home owners, did not do their job on the hazard reduction required around built up areas at the urban/wildland interface.
On the Angeles NF in 68, the Liebre/Canyon fire started in the upper Big Tujunga, in less than 12 hours we lost 150,000 acres and we were cutting line in the cities of La Crescenta, Sunland, and Tujunga.
That fire started miles away from any homes or buildings.
Back then; shake, shingle and asphalt shingle roofs were the big thing, most contractors did not learn their lessons then, and they still don’t recognize the danger.
All three of the homes I own have metal roofs with the eaves boxed in with metal trim.
Some of the architectural styles in metal roofing have come a long way in the last 20 years.
Still doesn’t mean they won’t burn in a hot enough run, I just try to lessen the chances.


44 posted on 10/12/2017 9:26:35 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
It's a desert thing that happens every season.

The only thing that is different this time is the record amount of rainfall, so simply add the word "record" where appropriate:

Record rainfall produces record plant growth which then becomes record dry kindling during record fire season.

This is not a mystery any more.

We now know this is happening because the Glowing Bull Warming god is angry with America for electing Trump instead of the chosen one, Hillarity Clinton.

Now, we're all gonna DIE...someday.

45 posted on 10/13/2017 9:24:25 AM PDT by GBA (A = 432)
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To: IC Ken

California is burning due to global cooling.
As temperatures drop, precipitation goes down and drought ensues.
Five years of drought, more to come :(. As we cool down.

So I’ll do what I can to save the planet and increase my CO2 footprint.


46 posted on 10/13/2017 7:20:59 PM PDT by Toughluck_freeper
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