Posted on 10/03/2017 9:08:51 AM PDT by maggief
“...I think the AR-15 came first, based on what you posted.”
Apologies for lack of clarity.
There have been two AR-15s: the original was a “downsizing” of the AR-10, designed by the late Eugene Stoner and his team. Both AR-10 and the first AR-15 were select fire; “AR” stands for “ArmaLite Rifle,” not assault rifle.
Eugene Stoner was a USMC veteran and made no secret of preferring “full-power” rifle cartridges like the 30-06 and 7.62 NATO. The AR-10 - arguably a better design - arrived too late to be a serious competitor in the Army Dept’s search for a successor to the M1 Garand. It did enter production, licensed to Artillerie Inrichtigen in the Netherlands: some 10,000 were made in 7.62 NATO, and it served in minor military organizations around the globe for many years - very capably, by a number of accounts. Versions with heavy barrels and belt-feed systems were developed: light machine guns.
Unable to sell the AR-10 to the US Army, ArmaLite - then not much more than a storefront outfit with minimal manufacturing capability - got word of the Small Caliber High Velocity (SCHV) program, an attempt in certain Army circles to develop a lighter rifle controllable in full auto mode. Eugene Stoner and team were directed to rework the AR-10 for the little cartridges (mostly 22 cal) of SCHV.
The team produced the original AR-15, first in 222 Rem and then a couple others, one of which became 5.56x45. A small number of rifles were sent to Southeast Asia, where military advisors field tested them and were delighted with results.
Series production was hoped for (USAF was interested too, unhappy that the Army told them to give up their M2 Carbines). ArmaLite had minimal production facilities, and licensed Colt (including trademark use and other intellectual properties). M16s and M16A1s were made; plus some field test versions whose nomenclature has fled memory just now.
I must stand corrected: the first semi-only rifles for civilian sale made by Colt are marked on the left side of the lower receiver thus:
[horse carrying broken lance] COLT/AR-15
[one inch spacing]
CAL.223
MODEL SP1
SER. SP3xxxx
[I dug the beloved spouse’s rifle out of the safe to check. According to records, it dates to 1974]
Stoner took another stab at it, designing his AR-16, a select-fire arm chambering 7.62 NATO made from stamped steel, spot-welded, and simpler parts capable of being made on automatic screw machines - manufacture by lower-tech tooling than required for the AR-10 or its descendants, the M16 family. The idea was to sell AR-16s to smaller nations who might want to license their own production, but had no local industrial base equal to the M16’s requirements.
By then, 7.62 NATO was falling out of favor.
Stoner left ArmaLite. Arthur Miller headed a team that reworked the AR-16 into the AR-18, a smaller version chambering 5.56x45 US M193. Production was licensed to companies in Japan, Britain, and Holland, but it did not catch on either (USSR was practically giving away AKs).
A semi-only version was designed. Approved by BATF, it became the AR-180. Over 21,000 were made; it’s now a collector item beloved by a small segment of the US shooting public. Many judge it superior to the M16 family but it was rather lightly built in comparison (despite being heavier - all steel, no alloy) and specimens are frequently encountered broken.
I must be missing it. I don’t see any stains, at the link (tiger droppings), above.
From the looks of one of those photos (neatly staked magazines) he had lots of unused ammo.
The Player’s card could definitely get him bumped up to a suite. But, he wouldn’t likely know ahead of time. Otherwise, it would be a regular (paid for) reservation, specifically for the suite.
Also, if he’s as big of a gambler as has been reported, it would seem he’d have his own card, with his own racked up points.
Maybe, for some reason, they just always played on her card. Maybe she used the rooms.
I saw two pics of AR15’s. They shoot .223 and 5.56. I did not see mention of .30 caliber weapons but by the time this’d is over they will have him lobbing grenades. The whole thing is insane. I’m sceptical of all of it.
But Paul Ryan announced that the hearing protection act is dead today so its likely mission accomplished.
Link it. The photo won’t last a minute in a thread. Too graphic for some.
Is that the only photo you’ve seen? Plus the one of his feet?
Want to see the full body, angles, arms etc. Much can be learned from photosat scene.
Also...saw this and got a ‘hmmmmmm’....
Fox News Forensic Psychiatrist guest, Dr Michael Welner, offers motive for shooter snapping....even going so far to put blame onto CNN....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3bhtxJF8Aw
A few minutes after the segment, Brian Kilmeade quickly offers a disclaimer....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF-ir3ZgQ0A
Agree.
Geniuses abound.
Thanks for the clips, Jane!
I’ve been on more than a few high-roller junkets. Top drawer everything and anything!
They don’t comp an ex-hostess over a big gambler. NO WAY!
Every move of comped players is recorded. Money spent/markers, time gambling ... etc. There’s a quota.
Agree. Something doesn’t add up about him using her card.
Unless she reserved room? He’d been there several days prior.
I just don't get how an ex-hostess would rate over a high roller, unless SHE was the higher roller.
Born in the Philippines, Ms Danley moved to the Gold Coast where she married a local man who worked in advertising and became an Australian citizen, living at Nerang for around 10 years until the late 1980s.
The man, Les Darcey, has since passed away.
Ms Danley worked with him for at least some of the time as a bookkeeper and had also had a role during Expo 88 in Brisbane, friends said.
Les helped Ms Danley raise her daughter from a previous relationship, ‘digital innovator’ and artist Sheila Darcey.
Ms Darcey, believed to be in her 40s, lives in Venice, California, with her partner Micah Linton, son of Promega CEO William A. Linton, and their daughter Leila.
Ms Danley, who is last believed to have visited Australia in 2012 to attend her Beenleigh-based mother’s funeral, has two sisters still living in Brisbane – Liz Werner and Amelia Manango.
Ms Manango’s Facebook posts include photos of her and two of her three sons with Ms Danley’s daughter, Sheila, in the US in September.
Another post, dated August 31, shows a picture of the MGM Grand Casino in Las Vegas.
(snip)
Facebook photos showed Ms Danley participating in a gambling tournament in Las Vegas in 2014.
She was also a regular at the Mandalay Bay hotel and was there as recently as September 17.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11929297
Last year, Danley travelled to Dubai, and appears to have visited family members there.
Jane, here is the link to the photo of the dead shooter, from mid-chest up.
Not for the squeamish.
It was originally in the string of pictures—now it is just a link due to its graphic nature.
The two stains I refer to are evident.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLOOEfaV4AA7ACc.jpg
The Magpul PMAG magazines are manufactured for many calibers now, but the larger caliber magazines lack the curvature molded into the body of their .223/5.56 magazines. However, I stated that the angle of view may be creating a foreshortened illusion of appearing straight but could actually be curved, thus making it an AR15 in .223/5.56.
Sorry for your confusion.
“I saw two pics of AR15’s. They shoot .223 and 5.56. I did not see mention of .30 caliber weapons...”
It must be emphasized, this terrible incident is not at all unusual in terms of the range from the perp’s chosen firing point to the people in his target area. Even the smallest 5.56mm bullet will do lethal injury at much greater ranges.
And hitting one isolated person at that range with a single round would not have constituted even a moderately challenging feat of marksmanship.
Choice of cartridge in AR-15-pattern rifles is no longer limited to 5.56mm bore sizes.
6mm wildcat rounds have been chambered for decades, though factory-loaded ammunition is rare.
More recently, rounds of greater size firing 6.5mm and 6.8mm have become available in factory loadings. Their heavier bullets possess greater range and can do more injury.
300 AAC Blackout has become available in rifles of that size: a true 30 caliber firing some remarkably heavy bullets. Not a huge boost in effective range, but it’s very accurate.
The AR-15-type platform is not big enough to safely handle 7.62mm NATO, which is just as capable as any “full power” cartridge of earlier times such as 30-06. One needs a rifle of AR-10-type: larger and heavier than AR-15-type rifles, but not burdensomely so, otherwise identical in appearance and function.
Mention was made in earlier coverage of 7.62mm rifles being found at the scene, but that has dropped from the more current news stories. Impossible at this point find out what really got used; the media hacks are relentlessly clueless, not to mention monumentally uninterested in dispelling their own ignorance. It’s quite possible that they could eyeball an AR-15 side by side with AR-10 and not realize they were looking at two different rifles.
They must have removed the ‘graphic’ pics. I only see the legs and one arm of a dead cowardly POS.
Thank you. Would have rather seen his splattered body on the sidewalk after the chicksh!t jumped out of the window but this will suffice.
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