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Army Blackhawk Collides With Drone Over NYC
Air & Space Magazine ^ | 9/27/17 | Tim Wright

Posted on 09/29/2017 3:28:42 AM PDT by LibWhacker

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Arterburn says the collision could have been much worse for the Black Hawk. “The way the [drone] hit them...was in somewhat of a benign orientation. I think they got fortunate.” It appears the drone hit the left side of the aircraft and bounced up into the retreating blade, where it was struck again. If it had hit an advancing blade, it could have done major damage, says Arterburn.

Mr. Arterburn needs to brush up on his helicopter dynamics.

There is nothing different about the advancing or retreating blade from a drone strike perspective. The relative velocities between the drone and the blade are identical.

The difference between the advancing and the retreating blade is only aerodynamic while in forward flight, where the apparent wind speed of the retreating blade is slower than that of the advancing blade, thus affecting the lift generated by the blade.

21 posted on 09/29/2017 5:04:04 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: babygene
Having this as a news item will kill the industry overnight.

If you don't have a drone now and want one, I'd give it 24 - 48 hours before the shelves are empty.

22 posted on 09/29/2017 5:05:36 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: LibWhacker

Other than being easier to fly, a so-called drone, as the media likes to call them, is nothing more than a radio controlled aircraft; and radio controlled aircraft have been around for over 50 years. Perhaps people have less common sense now to avoid operating an R/C aircraft near real aircraft.


23 posted on 09/29/2017 5:05:49 AM PDT by Flick Lives
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To: BuffaloJack

https://www.amazon.com/DJI-CP-PT-000312-Phantom-4-Quadcopter/dp/B01CFXQZD0
DJI Phantom 4 Quadcopter
$965.00 & FREE Shipping

Perhaps it’s a variant that is different from your model, perhaps prices have gone up based on demand, or perhaps you’re a better shopper, but this was my source.


24 posted on 09/29/2017 5:06:13 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: dfwgator; elpadre

Agree completely. It’s going to get worse, I think a lot worse, before it gets better. What’s surprised me is just how quickly the drone problem has deteriorated. I thought we had more time, but hadn’t counted on the widespread availability of what are apparently fairly highly capable commercial drones. I was thinking, oh, terrorist nations will have to develop their own, and that isn’t easy... Nope, they’re buying them off the shelf! Now this incident looks like it was probably an accident, but it’s easy to predict a lot worse is coming.


25 posted on 09/29/2017 5:07:47 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Pollster1

I got one of these drones in June, but I haven’t flown it yet. I didn’t realize when I got it that the controller had to be purchased separately for about $150. I’ll get one, but I wish I’d known about the controller being a separate purchase when I bought it.


26 posted on 09/29/2017 5:09:07 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Men stand up for freedom; slaves kneel before their masters.)
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To: Tallguy

> All of this stuff is mandated now, but very few drone operators are even aware of the rules.

Thanks. I didn’t know about the test.
There was nothing mentioned about it when I bought one.
I guess I haven’t broken any law yet as I don’t have the RF controller to fly the damn thing, yet. I didn’t know the controller was a separate purchase.


27 posted on 09/29/2017 5:16:03 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Men stand up for freedom; slaves kneel before their masters.)
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To: BuffaloJack
No, it’s $499. I own one. I got it in June.

That's the one you have. There are drones that cost far, far more than that.

28 posted on 09/29/2017 5:17:56 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: BuffaloJack

A few years ago my nephew got my brother-in-law an RC helicopter for his birthday. He smashed the hell out of it the first and only time he tried to fly it..........LOL!


29 posted on 09/29/2017 5:21:25 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: cicero2k
"The drone pilot should drop altitude and return to launch point if he hears aircraft."

The drone pilot was probably a whacked out mussie trying to bring down any aircraft he could ram his toy into...

30 posted on 09/29/2017 5:28:52 AM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: LibWhacker

The civilian helicopter would have FARED much worse.

Do they teach English in journalism schools these days?


31 posted on 09/29/2017 5:31:41 AM PDT by IronJack (sh)
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To: wrench

Difference is that a plane can at least make something of a controlled crash without an engine.

A helicopter is SOL when those blades stop.


32 posted on 09/29/2017 5:50:37 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik

Auto-rotation. All helo pilots have to demonstrate competence, else all they fly is a desk.

Planes can’t fly without power unless airspeed is maintained over the wings, same idea as auto-rotation.


33 posted on 09/29/2017 5:56:03 AM PDT by wrench
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To: Flag_This

True the 200 range is arbitrary. But it’s better than your seemingly throwing up your hands and saying it’s the people’s fault who operate the drones. Of course it’s the people’s fault who operate the drones, we all know that but if they are not going to be responsible and act in a proper way then action must be taken to make sure that they cannot kill other people.


34 posted on 09/29/2017 6:04:44 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: billyboy15
We can't trust people to behave responsibly in a vehicle where their stupidity can't get themselves killed. Good luck with one that has them safely in a remote location.
35 posted on 09/29/2017 6:38:52 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: LibWhacker

Was it an Amazon delivery drone?


36 posted on 09/29/2017 7:06:07 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: BuffaloJack

#18 Did you lose it recently in New York? : )


37 posted on 09/29/2017 7:30:29 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: LibWhacker

One of those little hand-sized drones, or something bigger?


38 posted on 09/29/2017 8:01:37 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: JimRed

Question answered- 8 pounds plus.


39 posted on 09/29/2017 8:05:19 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: LibWhacker

Yes, neither drones nor “air cars” in the future will be able to avoid or ignore “traffic lanes”.


40 posted on 09/29/2017 8:46:25 AM PDT by Wuli
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