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1 posted on 07/17/2017 7:59:21 PM PDT by springwater13
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To: springwater13

I’d prefer immeidaite repeal, but phasing it out may be the best we can expect as a political matter.


144 posted on 07/17/2017 9:45:16 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: springwater13
Perhaps I'm not the only one who sent him a letter advising that if he didn't do everything in his power to repeal it, as he promised I'd do everything in mine to insure he didn't get re-elected.

Better to have a democrat who is honest about supporting it than a lying sack of fecal matter who lies about wanting to rid of it. (Or so I said)...

149 posted on 07/17/2017 9:56:50 PM PDT by null and void (This is how socialists work: Erase the past, Bankrupt the present, Steal from the future.)
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To: springwater13

Six months? O.K. Two years? Hell no!


150 posted on 07/17/2017 9:56:54 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: springwater13

Repeal OBAMACARE and give us what healthcare CONGRESS has.


151 posted on 07/17/2017 9:56:56 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: springwater13

Just to clarify, the two year delay being proposed would be a two year delay for the full repeal to actually kick in. Some seem to have misunderstand McConnell to be proposing a 2 year delay for the replacement only, with the repeal taking place immediately.


156 posted on 07/17/2017 10:13:21 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: springwater13

Smart move.

If Collins and Rand Paul vote no they will be outed as Obama moles.


157 posted on 07/17/2017 10:13:30 PM PDT by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: springwater13

Does this mean lord McCain approves?


158 posted on 07/17/2017 10:13:52 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: springwater13

I’m all for repealing Obamacare now and replacing it with something better later, IF this includes the defunding of Planned Parenthood.

The Senate bill that has died, had the defunding of Planned Parenthood in it, and I want Planned Parenthood to be defunded!


159 posted on 07/17/2017 10:14:35 PM PDT by Southnsoul
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To: springwater13

“2 year delay to replace”

That should be enough time for the states to get together and pass an appropriate Constitutional amendment.

Trump can lead the process.

The power over healthcare not specifically delegated to the federal government is given to the states or the people. Amendment X.


161 posted on 07/17/2017 10:22:29 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: springwater13

Repeal now with a promise to replace sometime before the sun burns out.


163 posted on 07/17/2017 10:41:48 PM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: springwater13

Typical. Kick that can down the road.


166 posted on 07/17/2017 11:51:10 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

McConnell’s only proposing this because he knows there isn’t a chance in hades of a full repeal making it through the senate. It would be surprising if it even makes it to the Senate floor, because the majority of the spineless senate doesn’t want to be on record for voting against it.


171 posted on 07/18/2017 1:46:48 AM PDT by lonevoice (diagonally parked in a parallel universe)
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To: springwater13

Unless the Senate rules are changed, which is unlikely, 60 votes are needed to call the vote on a bill to repeal Obamacare (only 50 + Pence are needed for it to pass).


175 posted on 07/18/2017 2:26:47 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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To: springwater13
I agree with this general approach. Obamacare needs to be completely repealed before it fails so badly that the dems use its failure as an excuse to push single payer.

However, everyone has been focused on only one aspect of the problem: who pays and how. More important in my mind is to attack the cost side of the equation. If costs weren't so wildly out of control this endless battle over health insurance wouldn't be such a big deal.

Currently, we have a system in which so many hospitals and healthcare networks have merged and consolidated that we essentially have a healthcare/health insurance cartel. There is zero competition, there is zero pricing transparency (entering an emergency room is like handing them a blank check), and there is collusion and price-fixing galore occurring. CEOs in the health sector are the highest paid of any business sector in the entire country, many being paid in the tens of millions per year. Other administrative staff are paid similarly stratospheric amounts, and their primary goal is to maximize revenue with little concern for anything else, even though most hospitals are ostensibly non-profit.

If ever there were an industry that desperately needed a healthy dose (no pun intended) of competition, it is the healthcare industry. We also need to get the third party payers out of the mix to the greatest extent possible. Similar to the housing bubble and the current higher education bubble, third party money just drives unwarranted inflation and disincentivizes efficiency and cost containment. Force the providers to price their product according to what individuals can actually afford to, or are willing to pay (something we used to call a "market") and the situation would change rapidly. If one hospital or network wants to continue to fleece its patients, then there should also be dozens of competitors eager to take their business away from them and to do a much better job of serving their patients in the process. Until all of this happens, the bickering over Obamacare will not really solve anything.

177 posted on 07/18/2017 2:45:39 AM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: springwater13

Repeal now, then drag your stupid, loser Republican feet in trying to pass another unconstitutional health care bill. At least we’ll be done with the first one.


184 posted on 07/18/2017 3:39:22 AM PDT by Big Giant Head
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To: springwater13

Yes, please, repeal now.

There should be no hurry to “replace.” In fact, the noise about “replace” is a trap.

After repeal, then the Republicans should systematically study the problems in the health care system, and address each of them separately. Trying to solve the problems with a one-size-fits-all “solution” is doomed to fail.

They would do well to learn the Army’s seven step method for problem-solving and apply it here.


190 posted on 07/18/2017 4:08:57 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: springwater13

There is No need for a two year delay to kill Obama Care.It was done many times by the RINO’s during all of those phones votes the House and Senate Republicans took to get back into office.

Obama Care needs to be killed today so that the people can plan their financial futures.Without having to worry what the D.C. Clowns are doing.


192 posted on 07/18/2017 4:17:30 AM PDT by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: springwater13

Thank God we are (perhaps) going for a straight repeal. I’m not thrilled with the two-year delay, but it’s better than a bad replacement.


198 posted on 07/18/2017 5:05:32 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: springwater13

Stupid. Just stupid


202 posted on 07/18/2017 5:15:30 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: springwater13

Fox just reported 60 votes are needed for full repeal unless he changes the rules for a 51 vote majority.

I dream of a day when Republicans control the Senate and can do things like that.


203 posted on 07/18/2017 5:15:40 AM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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